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Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Nerdanderthal, Nov 30, 2014.

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  1. Eerily

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    Here's a related topic which also seems by to be considered by many to be a taboo. Concerning the social ethic of avoiding discrimination based on race, it differs in degree and clarity concerning various factors. Concerning laws, regulations, employment, admittance to universities and other related issues the ethic is relatively high in degree and clear enough. But, concerning friendship, it's rather vague. Then concerning romantic relationships, it seems the ethic barely applies and there is little consensus on how it should apply, nor much spoken on it at all.
     
    Eerily, Feb 4, 2015
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  3. Nerdanderthal

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    I've had a realization.

    To acknowledge the importance of IQ, is to be considered racist. There is no separating those perceptions. I'd prefer realist rather than racist.

    But then again, to be a realist is to be negative... in regards to our egalitarian notions and the emphasis on fairness from left leaning people.

    People on the right tend to embrace production, fairness be damned. The left wants to enforce fairness, even if production suffers.

    You think IQ is pivotal? You're a racist.

    You prioritize other things over fairness? You're a scumbag.
     
    Nerdanderthal, May 2, 2015
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  5. Moonglow181

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    fairness? Since when? where? what a joke....there is no such thing.....anywhere.
     
    Moonglow181, May 2, 2015
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  7. Nerdanderthal

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    Some people are super smart, some people are super dumb. Would you prefer everyone to be of the same intellectual acumen?
     
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  9. Asmodean

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    That's what you have made of it.
     
    Asmodean, May 3, 2015
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  11. Nerdanderthal

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    It's a fact that Asians have higher IQs than Whites who have higher IQs than Hispanics who have higher IQs than Africans who have higher IQs than Aboriginees.

    If I say having a high IQ is superior, and assert the problems of certain groups are a result of a low collective IQ, I'm a realist.

    but you'll call that racism, won't you Asmo?
     
    Nerdanderthal, May 3, 2015
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  13. MeAgain

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    Intelligence quotients are measured by standardized tests.

    These tests may be biased towards certain races and social groups.
    When blacks and whites are tested on their knowledge and ability to learn and reason with words and concepts the whites generally do much better than the blacks. This is because the tests use words and concepts that are more familiar to whites than blacks. When the two groups are tested on their ability to learn new words, the blacks do just as well as the whites.
    When the tests use words and concepts known equally well to blacks and whites, there are no differences. -Joseph Fagan and Cynthia Holland

    Blacks have brain sizes on average that are smaller than whites. This would seem to indicate that the size of the brain affects I.Q. But women have brains that on average are significantly smaller than the difference in size between blacks and whites, and yet women score the same on average as men on I.Q. tests.

    Blacks in the U.S. have on average 25% European genes. So an American black can have different amounts of European genes, which in theory should affect his I.Q. Those with more European genes should always have higher I.Q.'s. This has not been found to be true.
    Blood tests of blacks have shown no association between the degree of European heritage and I.Q.

    During WWII both white and black soldiers fathered children with German women. When tested the children of the white fathers had an average I.Q. of 97, those of the black fathers had an average of 96.5, a statistical non difference.

    Dr. Elsie Moore of Arizona State University has found that black children adopted by white families had I.Q.’s 13 points higher than those of black children adopted by black families, due to environmental factors.

    And we know that the Flynn Effect works. Black 12 year olds have gained 5.5 I.Q. points over the last 30 years, a time of increased opportunity and education for black children.
     
    MeAgain, May 3, 2015
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  15. Okiefreak

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    Okiefreak, May 4, 2015
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  17. Asmodean

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    I see what you're trying to do here, nice try.

    Even if I would call your perception racist or racism that's something else than acknowledging the importance of IQ on itself.
     
    Asmodean, May 5, 2015
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  19. MeAgain

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    http://youtu.be/VJMPpmXe6LU​
     
    MeAgain, May 5, 2015
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