Switching from Klonipin to Atavan

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  1. TheGreatShoeScam

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    I got to break out of this cycle.

    In my opinion Klonopin is the shittiest benzo anxiety drug.

    Anxiety hits hard and fast I think a medication to combat it has to do the same.

    I am going to be honest here it was a mistake to take that first Rx in the first place.

    Shits been going on since April now. Everyone saw some erratic posts (drinking)

    Klonopin sucks it causes Alcohol cravings. Because for me it only works half ass and the second half of that ass needs to be a drink.

    Got Ativan waiting at the pharmacy. I cant screw this up. Day one the Ativan the booze has to stop.

    I am an old cat at this, going to take some pain done this b4.. Don't even know if I got an equivalent dose 2 MG a day.

    Here come the curse words. Klonopin is shit. I had a stash of Ativan and Xanax for a year. Like 40 pills 40 mg. No problems. As needed.

    Klonopin IMO is dog shit. Leaves you with that hanging edge. A little void alcohol fills so "nicely" a void to that wasn't even their before.

    Cant believe I got to do this shit again. I KNEW from past experiences with Klonipin I drink.

    Its such bull every two or three years I forget I get in this painful ass mess.

    Desire is 95% of the battle and I want out. Not having fun.

    Me and this demon fought before. I have to win for obvious reasons.

    Klonipin (Clonazepam) is not a "safer" benzo IMO thats a horse shit myth.

    Any one them can get you in trouble, deep shit, thousands of uncounted ruined lives but Clonazepam is crap. `
     
  2. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Metalica wrote about this situation




    "until it sleeps"


    F this I am going to win.
     
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    The day that never comes ...

     
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    Wow original post was only 10 days ago, I was damn mess. Posting that Metallica shit.

    "Myth" confirmed, darn Clonopin gives me alcohol cravings and makes the alcohol work 'better' causing me to drink too much of it too.

    Switched to the lorazapam no desire to go buy some alcohol. Was at the store often before 10 am when I started this thread.

    Tapered the drinking for a few days and quit.

    My what a nightmare that trap is "dependency and addiction" felt like no way out.
     
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    I know this is a late response. I just literally stumbled on the post. I was on Atavan and it fucked me up. I got addicted and while in a facility the resident shrink didn't ween me off. I was sick for a fucking week. If possible try an anxiety med that is not a narcotic. Benzos are a bitch to get off of. Good luck.
     
  6. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Vistaril is the brand name for hydroxyzine pamoate, its the only non narcotic I ever found actually worked.

    Strange thing is if I was not having anxiety it didn't seem to do anything at all couldent even tell I took anything as opposed to benzos that will chill you out no matter what state your in.

    Anyway it worked, I used the Ativan to kick the Klonopin and alcohol. Then cut the Ativan dose down to one milligram a day that I could walk away from without that much discomfort.

    I am going to skip some one mg doses also to make a stash for an airplane trip I need to take in a few months.

    2 mg to sleep the night before, one when I wake up then 3 or three at the airport to be totally chill for the whole coronavirus air travel routine.

    I should just ask my doctor for some Xanax for my trip, maybe I might get it. Doesn't like prescribing it cause it brings attention from the state when they look at prescribing habits.
     
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    I'm glad the switch helped. Substance abuse can be tricky to deal with. My mom uses Xanax to help with panic and to sleep at night. It can help. A lot of doctors don't like to prescribe it b/c of the potential abuse. I think as long as you are being reasonable with it it shouldn't be much of a problem.
     
  8. TheGreatShoeScam

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    I did.

    Aug 4th did the OP. Was in bad shape, wtf that was a total takeover.

    I should make a video of my old self (like in total recall) sober to tell myself to comeback if this ever happens again.

    That went on way to long all I had to do was feel like hell for less then a week.

    Reading that OP, what the heck, thats messed up, I remember it was bad but forget kinda what it felt like being stuck.

    addiction is insanity
     
  9. endlessdistanthills

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    Some people can't take it. I developed social anxiety after I got out of school and moved to a larger city, away from all of my friends. After years of hell I decided to tell my doctor (after accepting a new position at work) that anxiety was ruining my life and she prescribed the lowest dose of klonopin. .

    Apparently I needed to take a much smaller dose than that. Some people are really sensitive to it, and the lowest pill size is too much. I exhibited unusual behavior, and my anxiety got worse. Worry consumed my thoughts, and I acted out accordingly - not only while taking it, but even several days after my last dose. I decided to see a psychiatrist, and was told that klonopin can cause paradoxical behavior - like some drugs do at overdose levels.

    It's good that you recognize the unusual behavior. It took me a second round with klonopin to make me see it, and it almost cost me my marriage...lost a lot of friends too.

    You didn't ask for advice, but I'm just adding this here for anyone who is reading:
    You should try your best to come off benzos. Therapy takes some time, but in the long run it really helps...even when it feels like the things you are doing are of no help.
     
  10. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Would have answered sooner was not checking.

    Clonopin can be awful but I think I wrote above doctors for some reason thing its "safer" BS !

    Its amazing how that built in forgetter works. I was so deep in the Klonopin drinking hole, this thread is the only record besides my own memory and intelectually I remember it was hell but I can't remember the true horror of it. Going out for alcohol at 8 am so I did not feel panic attack crazy,

    Never drink again just not happening but I MUST never ever drink 2 days in a row cause that so easy can become 3 4 5 6 7 days all day and no way out its so awful. Darn pandemic got me started "the germ apocalypse is coming ..,. back in mar or April

    Nov 28 so I escaped that crap almost 4 months ago, In the AA world thats nothing but I don't do that counting thing.
     

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