Swift Boat Liars for Jesus...

indeed...nothing good with come of it. this war is not about religion and yet everyone is trying so hard to make it out to be. the americans are making it out to be the muslims against the christians when it's the americans against the middle easterns.

politics and religion have unfortunatley always been mixed and nothing good has ever come out of it.

 

Middle eastern's hate Americans because we back the Jews in Israel

 

Yes, and if we turn on Israel then this country better watch out! For some reason I have this feeling that if Kerry is elected, then we will turn on Israel in order to not offend the UN. If you people think what is going on in Iraq is bad, just wait until we turn on Israel. People need to realize that politics and religion DO go together. There is a war in the spiritual realm, and who we elect into office will effect this country and the rest of the world. Thanks JesusDied4U for your wise posts. It was nice to see someone who doesn't get joy out of bashing Christians.

 

Thanks to you, too, Ephiphany. I feel the exact same way about Kerry. I smell a rat.

 

okay, so you walk outside after hearing a commotion and you look at two characters. one looks like a sheep, the other looks like a wolf. you say, hey whats going on here, and the wolf says don't believe anything this sheep says he's just a wolf in sheeps clothing, which one do YOU think is more likely the war mongering carniverous son of a bitch?

 

Here is Bush running against Jesus. I bet there would still be stubborn people voting for Bush!

 

JesusDiedForU....GET A FUCKING GRIP

you are completly bringing a topic into a post that you and moonjava-as always-have managed to cut up and critizise at every point. and now you pissed me off. its stupid fuckers like you that are the true anti-crists. you and your ignorant views and hardcore belief in the bible and everything that it tells you to do. you are nothing but a slave of the book. and now you want to bring abortion into it?? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH PRO-LIFE PEOPLE?

I dont like the fact that you believe in the bible. SHould I go and fucking make it outlawed, because I DONT LIKE IT? NO! You fucking dumbass. This country was founded on CHOICE. DO you know what that is? That's the ability to make your own fucking god-DAMNED decsion in what the fuck YOU want to do.

Your mindless followers and pro-life people are going to bring MORE overcrowding into an already OVERCROWDED world. Thanks. You're awesome. What about those girls that get raped? It was gods will, right? They should have that kid, huh? MAN you fucking PISS ME OFF. So

Shut the Fuck Up.

To everyone else...sorry. sensitive subject.

 

The religious right wing prostitute the word of God for their own economic purposes.

 

-I'm sure you would say the same thing to Jesus... as my signiture says: Jesus said, "The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that what it does is evil." (John 7:7) ...That could be the theme for this post.


The Bible is true man... and everyone has the choice to accept or reject it. Everyone has the choice to accept Jesus as God.... its up to you.

 

Ok, I was brought up to believe christians were supposedta be very loving caring people, that didn't generate hate and deception..But lately, that's all i see from people claiming to be christians..and no I'm not bashing on christians..because I have nothing against them. but TRUE Christians don't promote war and violence, or that's what I was brought up to believe, not just Christians but other religions as well. Now, I see everything involving religion in politics and it just doesn't seem to me that they should go together...On this forum that's what i'm seeing people that keep saying and preaching to each of us they are christians yet, the vibe I get from some of them, not all of ya'll but some of ya'll..who keep saying it..i keep getting a bad vibe of hate and anyone that doesn't vote for BUSH is viewed as the enemy....ONE person in particular..I'm sorry but we were led into a freakin war and I don't believe it's a war God wanted us to go into or venture into..How can you justity this war and how can you vote for a man that has led us there?!.This war shouldn't have happened..and all I see is hate on here, and it's annoying as hell..sorry that's my peace on this subject..If you want to brag about being christian then do so..but, act like one as well..

 

And when a 14 year old girl gets raped on the way home from school one afternoon, she has the CHOICE and the RIGHT to abort that child. I'm glad you know what choice is. You have your right to your opinions, and if you don't believe in abortion, that's your opinion. But now your judging others. Your saying abortion is murder. No, my dear jesus man, it's not. Every woman has the right to abort her child. No matter the circumstance. Sure, some woman abuse this right. But we can not let the actions of a few affect all of us.

And by the way, I would say the exact same thing to Jesus. And I'm sure he'd agree with me. You religious people really have got to stop using God, Jesus, and the Bible to get out of everything. And just because you're religious, that dosn't mean your opinion on something is God's also. I never read "And thou shall not abort thy kin". Have a great day.

 

So now this is another dreaded abortion thread?!

Lol....

http://messages.iwon.com/jsp/topicview.jsp?tid=525921&va=1

http://www.bettybowers.com/newsbush.html

 

Please don't give me the rape nonsense, abortion is birth control. Woman don't want the kid so they kill it. A survey taken in 1988 intervewed 1900 women asking why they were getting an abortion the reasons differed some, but the bottom line was that only 1% were gettng abortions because of rape. That leaves the other 99% with few excuses. Oh yes abortion is murder, and who gave them that right, you, or some court justice. Hitler said the same thing. Killing people in the gas chambers was not murder. They were only Jews. I can tell you what Jesus said, whosoever harms one of these little one's it will be better for that man if he had never been born. P.S. That"s not my Opinion. So when the doctors crush the babies scull and sucks out it's brains thats ok with you. Or when they botch the abortion and the baby is alive and they put him in a dish to die or throw him in a dumpster you have no problem with that. Before the 1970s doctors faced prison time for doing abortion because that generation knew it was murder. You better pray to God the bible is not true, because if it is, you are a heart beat away from damnation. If there is degrees of sin in the bible the sheading of inoccent blood ranks the highest on the list. Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

Then fucking DAMN ME TO HELL.

But, you see, you've brought religion into a discussion. I don't know why you religious folk just HAVE to do it, but you did.

Hi! Welcome to America! We don't give a DAMN about your religion, or your bible! We don't base our laws around what Jesus said, or what God said, or even what your Bible says. Once again, America is choice. If I really have to explain choice again I'm going to be mad. That little fetus might be alive. Just as alive as that bacteria making you sick. Does that mean you shouldnt take that medicine to make you better? As for your "survery". That was 16 YEARS ago, and 1900 women represents an INCREDIBLY small population. I'm all for birth control, and sometimes one slips.

Just because that 18 year old girl accidentaly had a condom break or something, dosnt mean she should ruin hers and that babys life. Give it away you say? Sure, give it to a foster home. I'm sure thats not a surefire way to fuck a kids life.

 

That's right you don't want to mess up the babies life, let the doctor cut it's head off and throw it in the dupster. Yea old survey so I guess the million abortions we do a year are because a million woman have been raped. Oh yes I know you don't care about God, but you see God use to be a big part of American Law making. That is why the Ten Commandments are chiseled in stone in the Supreme Court building in Washington. Only our sick little judges have not figured out how to get them remove from the building yet. It's a shame you never took the time to read the bible. Because within it's pages are 4 chapters dedicated to the United States. The bible states that America would become proud againt the Holy God of Israel. Because of this, God said He would allow northern nations to rise up against us. These nations would attack America without warning. It clearly states that all of our cities will burn and our end would come in one hours time. It also states this would happen after the Jews have returned to Israel, and occupy Jerusalem. You see there is such a thing call cause and effect. The Democratic party, or as I would say the party of death, has now guaranteed the Republicans a line of election victories that a few years ago Republicans could of only dreamed of. You see Republican women have about 30% less abortions than Democratic women. Back in the early 1970s this did not count for much, but now after 30 years this is beginning to show at the polls. The Democrats will find it increasingly harder to win elections because of their abortion polices.
They had a whole artical on this in News Week titled, " The Cradle will Rock"
The Democrats were wrong on slavery, and they are wrong on abortion. The Democrats are so stupid they have withour realizeing it aborted their own voteing base, and they don't know it yet. Even if abortions were stopped today, the Republicans for the next 20 years will injoy ever increaseing numbers of new voters. The God you don't care about, is going to take your nation away. This is going to happen because you are not wise enought, nor do you have any understanding who the God of the bible is. Our nations end will occur in your life time. God is going to abort you. I wonder if you will care when it's your lump of flesh on the line. You sure don't care about any of those children.

 

I was in a foster home for 5 years..it was a very nice place..no bars on the windows or anything.

 

Either way, it's choice, and its population control. They know better than to take away abortion.
And the bible says something about America? I sure hope you made that up.

God can never be a constitutional reason to make or change a law. Just because some people see it as murder dosnt mean we all do. Just because God tells you it is dosnt mean it really is. Wake up, man.

And I like how you call Democrats the "party of death".
Some facts for you:
US soldiers dead in Iraq: over 1000
Iraqian CIVILANS (aka: innocent bystanders) dead: 12,000 to 14,000

You really are a sick fuck Campell. God is going to abort me? Fuck you.

 

It's all relative. Every different person has a different perspective on life. Try to make us all the same and change what's so special about us.

 

:sunglasse It does'nt matter who you vote for, they are imperfect humans and imperfect humans cannot correct mankinds problems. History has proven that. I am waiting for a new government, a perfect government, the government that god will put together when this world ends, yes this world will come to an end just like the bible predicts and a new perfect order will take over. Only then will mankinds problems be truely solved. Nothing we do will stop this world from comming to an end, it is predicted in the bible and gods word does'nt lie, AMEN!

 

How long will it take before you're angry enough to do a little aborting for your God? This is not Christianity. This is hateful reactionism using God as a means to vent from a false position of authority.