Support the troops... why?

America did help put him in power... now they go after him when they see it's for their benefit. If they really gave a damn about the people of the Middle East, they would've put serious effort into getting him out of power the last time troops were sent over there (Gulf War).

So you support them killing for oil and power...?

Roosevelt called Hitler a "great man" a year after the murder of Jews had already started..

And there's America in the Middle East... not out of place at all.

It's also cowardly to blow up non-military building such as hospitals and pharmecutical factories... and to invade a country based on lies....

You ignorant American. What makes you think that other countries, and especially Iraq, even want democracy? If it was so wanted, like you seem to believe, the number of insurgents wouldn't be growing... you'd think the Iraqi people would put down their arms and help the Americans.

 

There's a big number of free countries on this Planet... don't go believing that the U.S. is the only one that's free.
Canada, Japan, and England are as free as we are, and they don't have large militaries or go bullying on small countries that can't defend themselves.

I dbout most of the citizens of this country want to live here. But hey, I could be wrong...

I love you're thinking! It's like, sooooooo American! Since we're America, let's rule the world because it's the right thing to do! Let's bring back Manifest Destiny! omg!!!111!!!

Perhaps if you'd lose your pro-American/anti-everybody else feeling, and made some friends who'd live in this country, you'd know that he's telling the truth... the world hates us. Shit, that's easy to see from just going on message boards from other countries...

Our generation is the most informed generation yet. Burn your television, and think for yourself. You've shown me that you know absolutely nothing about anything, by repeating the double-speak propaganda that's on American news all the time.

 

Woopteedoo... I grew up an army brat and I have friends that may be over there... I still won't support murder or murderers of any kind.

Yet he still kills the Iraqi people...

I think anybody in their right mind would rather go to prison than kill for oil.

Just because "shit happens", doesn't mean I'm going to support murderers.

 

I'm truly sorry for your brother...

The educated people know that 9/11 was atleast planned by our own government. The administration is a very good one, in keeping the facts away from the masses.

I'm sorry for your friends... but hey, if you do bad things, karma will catch up to you. They shouldn't have killed in the first place.

Stop following religions.

 

Ignorant and envy? Have you ever watched non-American news? Non-Americans actually get real news... that's probably really hard for you to fathom... yes, real news! America, as a whole, is the most ignorant and uneducated country on this Planet.

Or if America would stop pushing their culture and religion and politics onto other countries, the world would be much safer than anybody could ever imagine..
Something like this was said by so many world leaders and regular people during the last U.S. election: "I don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't get to vote in this election.. never before has one country's election have such an effect on the rest of the world.

How about you get educated and stop being the typical ignorant American? You're making the rest of the world hate all of us.

 

spooner,
"Envy? Envy of what,"

WEALTH.

"Explain exactly how much harder you've worked then anyone in a third world country. America's (and consequently your's) position right now resulted from a combination of circumstances: the large amount of resources you have namely, the relatively easy time you had conquering your native population, the amount you've stolen from other nations, the regimes you've propped up, and an advantage of technology. I wouldn't be too proud of a history written at the expense of beaten slaves and native ways. At any rate, if you grew up in a desert you'd be the same camel-jockey you have such contempt for."

I DID grow up in the desert- eskimo. We've SPENT a fortune on fixing the world. Hell, canada is like a poor relation TOTALLY dependent on our economy for survival. I wish the US would cut off foregin aid and let the rest of the world go to hell.


"No, but you did arm Saddam, push him to war with Iran, then come back and kick his ass, fund Israel, arm and prop up the Al-Quaeda regime."

Trying to handle left over euopean problems. Europe needs to stop relying on US to clean up it's messes.

as for canada- it's a useless welfare state. I'm ashamed of my candian half!

 

Ha... isn't that odd... the U.S. has a larger debt then the rest of the world combined.

 

soulrebel51,
Ignorant and envy? Have you ever watched non-American news? Non-Americans actually get real news... that's probably really hard for you to fathom... yes, real news! America, as a whole, is the most ignorant and uneducated country on this Planet."

Bullshit. Non-americans get gov controlled news.

"Or if America would stop pushing their culture and religion and politics onto other countries, the world would be much safer than anybody could ever imagine.."

Pushing? you should quit COPYING!

"Something like this was said by so many world leaders and regular people during the last U.S. election: "I don't understand why the rest of the world doesn't get to vote in this election.. never before has one country's election have such an effect on the rest of the world."

ENVY!

"How about you get educated and stop being the typical ignorant American? You're making the rest of the world hate all of us."

you're a fool who knows nothing of the world. if you'd spent time on the streets of another country, you kiss american soil first chance you got!

there's a reason why guys like eldrige cleever and myer lansky chose to return to a US prison.

without the threat of american mititary intervention, the rest of the world would be locked in barbarism. Without US competion, euorpe is a meaningless battle that never would have ended. without US money, it wouldn't have been rebuilt after WWII.

Study history child. your self-righteous self-hatred demonstartes your ignorance.

 

I worked with Dreiding stereomodels in grad school (where I also made 2 batches without the methoxyl group).

 

So we should just let people in Indonesia die without aid... they've gotten lots of money from the US, Japan, and Canada... they don't need more money, they need people there to help them. To rebuild the country, to spread the resources, to spray the area to prevent maleria.

Without the US military, tens of thousands of people will have died, not helping would be cold blooded murder.

I doubt you've ever had to defend yourself.

You've certainly got a simplistic connotation of murder, But I consider killing a person whos trying to kill civilians and you in the heat of battle much more acceptable then letting a nation who needs help fend for themselves.

Yeah, they must have been aiming for them... you know how much the military hates hospitals.

Geneva Convention, can't procede into schools hospitals or churches without intellegence that says insurgancy, and the military has to pay for it

We'll Iraq does have quite a history of invading other nations too,

So you don't mind blood being spilled as long as its an ethnic thing? As long as we don't have to get involved to stabailize (thats what were doing in Iraq now) and stain our hands with blood.

An american who kills an american who is about to shoot a child is better then an american who kills an Iraqi who's about to shoot a child?

It's all the same. Iraq can't defend itself today. It needs help, we're there.

Like I said, we're still in Berlin. But now where there mostly as a relaxation spot for soldiers, and Germany got pissed when we said we were relocating a lot of troops to the middle east. Germanys glad to have our troops their. Tourisms great for their economy.

If Iraq's like Germany in 15 years, this mission will be a success.

 

So we didn't help out in the past means we shouldn't help out in the future?

We should help out whenever possible.

Killing for oil and power is what happened to Lebanon, Syria peacefully pulling out is a very positive turn of events.

Roosevelt was quite a duchebag, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have intervened in Germany, and wish we would have done it earlier

You can't back that up at all, America might have killed some civillians, but we don't gather together and gas ethnic groups like the Nazi's, or have government sanctioned gang rapings to wipe out ethnic groups like The Sudan.

You can't read about one tragedy in Iraq and then compare it to genocide, Thats so demeaning to people who really need help today. Iraq is a fucking playground compared to The Sudan.

You should really get out more and help yourself to some perspective.

But we're not fighting a military now, we're defending a country from insurgents who stockpile weapons in hospitals and schools. If we don't go in there, those weapons will be pointed at civilians.

Ignorant american? You're american too...

How about the Iraqi elections thats proof they want democracy.

Demnocracy isn't a quick fix, but it gives the country a lot of hope.

 

Sounds interesting Mr Spaceman.. I wish I had taken science a little further from school... but then maybe it's a good job I didn't... hmmm well I am not sure in eitherway.

 

Help yourself to the facts, our foreign dept owed to non US citizens is 862 billion, the total world foreign dept owed of the top 50 nations to foregn nations is 3.75 trillion.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_deb_ext

We also have the largest GDP in the world, almost double our closest trading partner, China.

We have the 151st highest dept per GDP,(2003, nationmaster.com) that puts us in a normal range.

 

Lodui is right.
You have to look at the amount of debt compared to the GDP, and the U.S. has no where enar the highgest percentage of GDP in debt. Hell, most European countries have higher debt to GDP ratios..
CIA World Fact Book.

 

I'd like to point out again that I didn't support Iraq.

But nobody misses Hussein, and we can't leave tommorow without the country collapsing.

The mission in Iraq today isn't war, its securing the country and training a police force.

 

Just because I support the troops, doesn't mean I support the war. I support the troops because they put their lives on the line. I think a lot of us feel that way...bottom line.

 

the troops are the ones that make the war possible.
am I saying refuse to fight and go to prison other than murder people? Yes.

 

Aha... friends of mine that live in Ireland, England, and Japan have all seen news programs that show a link between the U.S. government and the 9/11 attacks, and that the U.S. has no interest in the Middle East except for oil. They have real journalism in those countries.
There's no such thing as investigative reporting in America.

Copying what?

No... worriedness and scaredness that the Bush administration will have another 4 years in power.

Don't talk about what you don't know.

Unlike your little hillbilly ass, I've both traveled and lived abroad.

Yet that happens daily in our very own country...

 

No... but why should the military have to go? There's thousands of people and groups that would gladly go.. militaries are made for killing.

And the U.S. military has killed tens of thousands of people since the start of the war... but yeah, if you see nothing wrong with that..

In what way?

We seem to be killing civilians each day... I don't think there's going to be a good outcome to whatever our country chooses to do at all.

Some of the most powerful men in our government have said that the Geneva Convention doesn't apply today... I think it's also quite obvious that the U.S. isn't scared of/doesn't follow the Geneva Convention.

I did say that I don't support murder of any kind..
and the sanctions and our military have killed more people in the middle east in the last 10 years then any middle eastern government has.

They're both equally heroic.

Yes but the war in Germany actually ended... Bushco has said that this war won't end in our lifetimes.

I agree, but I really don't see that happening. I don't think the insurgents will stop fighting until the Americans are out of the country. But yeah, just my opinion...

 

Good job quoting you fucking retard. I said "Envy? Envy of what, our cultures and standard of living are approximately equal."

And America is completely dependant on Canadian exports of energy, softwood, etc. Trade works both ways, moron.

Europe's mess? You armed Saddam so that he could invade Iran, because of their connection to Russia. Exact same reason you armed Al-Qaeda, so that they could mount an insurgency against a Soviet friendly government. IE: America and Russia we're the two major players, Europe had little to nothing to do with it.

Good. I don't really want you coming back.