Support the troops... why?

I support them as individual human beings we share the earth with. I don't agree with their choice to BE a troop, but it's just that - their choice.

 

Its good to see folks not ripping the troops apart, most have various reasons for being in the service, I went young simply cause I liked weapons and blowing shit up but later the schooling was the big pay off.

When you enter any branch of the service your sworn to uphold and protect the constitution as well as obey the commander and cheif.

As much as many disagree with war the constitution is what lets most enjoy the american lifestyle so just going to war is a small part of it.

 

That's my problem with the armed forces. You either do whatever whoever in power tells you to do, or you're screwed. I would never want to do that. But, still, your choice.

 

my dad joined because he was young and poor and now he has 3 masters degrees and we are rich as hell....so id say the military does some good.

 

Troops dont kill people, bombs kill people

 

Why? Post-secondary education should be free, but that's besides the point. The point is that if you're such a pussy that you'll go to someone else's country and start killing people so that you don't have to spend a year or two in jail, or have to work a shitty minimum-wage job that I don't have any respect for you anyway. Murder is murder, regardless of motive.

 

Way to stupify a complicated issue spooner,

What about murder because of inaction? Is that ok? Are you innocent if you stand by and let people die? Because that's what would happen without inverventionism... because you don't like one intervention that makes all soldiers murderers?

Or are you aginst any intervention, and just want to let millions die, all around the world. Its a complicated issue, but if you want, you can take a simple minded pacifism which you don't even view the cost of lives of inaction wrong. Thats hypocritical bullshit.

I didn't support the war in Iraq, but I'm not going to call people who bleed with their comrades to secure a country and overthrew a despot cowards because I don't agree with one mission.

We need a military and the rest of the world needs our military too.

Have you ever had to kill someone? Have you ever saved anyones life? If not, your point of view is kinda askew on the matter. Way to back up the naive child point.

 

word! Thaz wat i was sayin!

you thought uncle sam wanted you
but you were used, you were just abused
I try to tell you time and time again
the only war worth winning is the war thats within

you played right into uncle sams hands
where is the glory in complying with demands
you were used to defend world dominitation
where is the honor in being an abomination?

and I dont see the glory in your war stories
it was just your turn to burn and get burned

you thought that you had something to prove
but yer just seeing colors, not red & white just blue
your whole life has always been the same
first you were tamed then you were ashamed

 

if your a troop your missions is to murder... no ones making you fight, put down the gun and walk away... if i kill someone now, theyll put me in prison forever... but if I join the army and kill someone, they'll give me a freakin medal.


What would you do if your children were murdered by americans?

I support the 1% of american troops that know their government is full of shit and only joined for money.

All the rest are mindless murdering zombies. Download & play the game America's Army... its the video game the army created (your taxs went to making this)... soldiers play on that game all the time, they are a bunch of war mongering hypocrites... if you show the slightest sense of disagreement with the govt/bush/capitalism/thearmy, they will kick you out of the game... if you are french, and speak french, they will try to kick you out of the game... They are the kind of mindless rednecks that are really the makeup of the Army. A bunch of war mongers.

All of these beliefs of mine have been confirmed by my friend in Iraq right now. He is one of the few that has kept their sanity and has not been brainwashed. 4 more months and hes out.
He's black and joined for the money... (what a surprise)

 

I understand your argument and agree in part, but the fact remains that the war on Iraq wasn't about helping the people of Iraq, that was just a useful little ploy/side issue to give justiication to the war, and there are many other ways in which things can be achieved without conflict. The Iraqi people have tried to rise against there oppressive government in the past, and when they turned to America for support and miltary help America didn't want to know, they refused... why was this??? because it wasn't in there interest at that time, Saddam Hussein was considered an ally.

The west impacted the problems of the middle east, for decades we have been selling them arms and buying their oil, these are socially undeveloped countries that we have supplied with advanced weaponary, could you imagine what would have happened 500 years ago if some alien race had come to this planet and handed us nuclear weapons and rocketry? That's basically what I think we have done, we have put advanced warfare into the hands of oppressors for pure filithy greed, now we are rightly paying the price for that. So we in our society who oppose greed and murder have to take the power away from such murderous individuals instead of supporting them.... and supporting them is what's done everytime we buy from a vast array of companys, everytime you pay tax to your government, so we should only spend what we need to and be selective as to who we buy things from. To top it off such companys as Mac Donalds don't just take your money they sour your brain with malnutrition that stops you from functioning properly and thinking clearly, impacting negative outcomes even further....

well, there I go again. I haven't said anything of any importance lately so I have made up for it!

 

as long as you get rich killing innicent people is justified?

 

So, in American-speak, "caring for your country" translates to "invading and slaughtering innocent nations"??


That makes perfect sense!

 

Then why do you support the people who take control of the oil fields themselves and start the "liberating" before any pencil-pushing war-hawk can do anything about anything?

So, by what you're saying, we should support their courage to be the killing machines the admin wants them to be?

 

I never said I hated them... I understand why they "have to" do what they do, but I don't support murder of any kind... why should make an exception in war-time?

I haven't yet watched Fahrenheit 9/11, and I don't know if I will... after people watch that movie (and then quote the movie), they seem to lose a lot of credibility.

 

Oh no! I don't want a bad record, so I'll go kill innocent people for a living, instead!


Haha.. what an argument.

 

Huh? I don't watch any news... and if you're going to start whining about a liberal bias corrupting people's minds, you might as well just stop replying to this thread now.

 

Woopteedoo... my "dad" was in the army for 20+ years, and I grew up around military people my whole life.... but just because I have friends in the military, I'm not going to support their killing.

And I never said anything about sending stuff to them... if I had a non-moronic loved one over there, I'd do the same thing.

 

I think this says it all:

"To those who have called me a coward I say that they are wrong and that without knowing it, they are also right. They are wrong when they think that I left the war for fear of being killed. I admit that fear was there, but there was also the fear of killing innocent people, the fear of putting myself in a position where to survive means to kill, there was the fear of losing my soul in the process of saving my body, the fear of losing myself to my daughter, to the people who love me, to the man I used to be, the man I wanted to be. I was afraid of waking up one morning to realize my humanity had abandoned me."
- - Sgt. Camilo Mejia, (who served a year in prison for refusing to return to fight in Iraq. He was released from prison Feb. 15, 2005.)

 

But the troops are the ones fighting the war... if they stopped fighting, there'd be no war.

If you support the troops, in my mind, you not only support the war, but you support all the crap that comes with it.

The troops are the ones doing all the killing.

 

And yet, it happens all the time in every war.

I'm talking about the war in Iraq.

Instead of the Iraqi government killing their people, the U.S. soldiers get to? What a plan!

Assuming is what started this war. Don't assume anything.

Get off your high horse, I doubt you know much more than me, and you're not even two years older than I.

And I thought you said you had no morals...