Super-size me

while i see no relevance, no, though i could lose some weight....195 6'2....though i have been heavier and lost some when i cut out a lot of shit(soda, fast food, and removed a lot of eat from my diet). slowly but surely though!


why though?

 

Personally, "the spend most my money on pot and music equipment, and live on pasta diet" works pretty damn good, 6'1" 172lbs, but I do have a little pudge on the abs.. damn motabolism is going finally i think.

 

Probably because the soda & fast food stuff including THE MEAT will cause people to get fat or raise their cholesterol levels. Have you heard of cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, or any heart diseases and know what causes them. Did ya realize that when people pig out on any food and get indigestion, then grab Tums or Pepto-bismol to "fix it" that their quick fix causes more problems. People have no idea why they get headaches, or stomaches or any minor problems. But alot of it could be stopped if they just grab healthy non-meat food instead of their quick fixes and they get defensive when you tell them that they should eat better to keep well. But then of course they can't whine about being sick if they did.

 

as far as I know, a balanced omni diet is something, includes 1day of meat, and 2 days of fish a week and the other 4 days vegetarian! But a lot of omni people I know think they have to eat meat EVERYDAY, in order to stay healthy, which is total bullshit.
and yes, soda is a great way for gaining weight, it contains so much sugar (1 liter of coke = 16 cubes of sugar or so)

 

Yeah, I know lots of people who still eat the "meat-n-potato" type meals. Now I don't have a book in front of me but usually some things ya read will tell you that the meat portion of the meal should be the size of a deck of cards. Well pretty soon they should enlarge the cards then because most servings I've seen are getting bigger.

Few things I found on the net.
Filet-O-Fish 470 Calories 26 grams of fat
Big Breakfast 700 Calories 36 grams of fat 1430mg sodium
Q-Pounder 430 calories 770mg sodium
Big Mac 600 calories 1050mg sodium

Just my luck if I went on some McDonald's diet for 30 days I would have high blood pressure and get nosebleeds from all that sodium. I was born with a heart defect and even though I had open heart surgery when I was in high school I still don't need to eat all the fat & cholesterol in fast food.

Some people have the self centered attitude "why should I care if someone
else eats fast/junk food and gains lots of weight". Well if a family member was to fat to play ball with you at the park...would ya care? If a family member got diabetes and couldn't share your birthday cake would ya care? If someone ya loved was so full of cholesertol and died of a heart attack or something would ya care?

 

1-2 servings of meat a day is recommended. Fish/poultry being recommended over red meat.

 

no offense, but should we ruin fast food for everyone because some people cant control themselves? It is the fault of the person who is gaining the weight, not the food. Mcdonalds makes clear the nutritional facts of their food on the wall of every mcdonalds, so why are they ever to blame if people get fat?

When we start forcing people to eat in a 'healthy way' will be the day we take the first full blown step of moving towards a police state. No thanks.

 

If you live in the United States, you should care very much about the number of people in this country who are morbidly obese, because these are the people who are causing your insurance rates to go up. More heart attacks, more Type II Diabetes, more cancer, more high blood pressure, etc., etc., etc.

If you're interested, I recommend "The Food Revolution" by John Robbins. While he certainly has his own agenda, he cites many legitimate, long term studies that definitely show the health benefits of eating a plant-based diet and the health risks of eating a Standard American Diet.

FWIW, while very few Americans eat at McDonalds for every meal, most Americans eat a diet that could be considered fairly close to the same thing. I think you might be surprised just how few meals the average American family actually eats at home each week and how few of those "at home" meals are actually prepared from fresh, whole foods. I know how I used to eat, and I know how most of my friends still eat, and most meals consisted of some highly processed starch along with a big slab of fatty meat of some sort. Very, very few people actually eat a "well-balanced" omni diet.

 

Morbidly obese people pay higher insurance rates like smokers i believe.

I agree that your "standard" American diet is not healthy. We do eat too much crap, but thats the peoples choices. I find it *highly* unfair to compare a fixed balanced diet to a diet that is obviously not balanced. I'd take it more seriously if it was compared to a diet that was approved by FDA guidelines or the such, which is mostly non meat.

 

Last time I checked, everyone at the company I work for pays the exact same thing for health insurance, smoker or non-smoker, fat or thin. Life insurance rates vary by health factors, but I was referring to health insurance and the cost of medical care in the United States.

 

you're right, its life insurance and not medical that they pay more.

At what point do we stop though? If we are to be a socialized country(which we are), then you have to take the bad with the good. Otherwise you become a police state banning rights of the citizens in the name of being a "benefit to the nation." I believe that was hitlers anti smoking argument too.

 

The issue isn't really about freedom of choice. I don't think that there should be legislation banning fast food. The issue is that the US government has allowed big business interests to politicize food and nutrition information. Cigarettes are still legal in this country. But, because cigarettes are so deadly, such a huge health risk, they are not, by law, allowed to advertize on television. Many states impose large taxes to discourage usage, and there are clear warnings on every pack. Everyone knows that cigarettes cause a wide variety of health problems because the government realized what a huge cost to government cigarette-related illness was and could no longer protect the tobacco companies.

Right now, fast food companies and the makers of mostly-sugar cereals, Oscan Meyer weiners, etc., etc., etc. are allowed to market directly to children, setting their eating preferences and habits before they are old enough to make an informed decision. The National Dairy Council is allowed to distrubute "educational" materials about how "Milk does a body good" to school children inside public schools, masking their pseudo-scientific marketing as free learning aids. I could go on and on. It shouldn't be against the law to eat or sell fast food. But it should be against the law to market food to children, just like it's now against the law to market cigarettes to children. And it would be nice if the government stopped marketing for big business and instead concentrated on dissiminating correct nutritional information, based on science instead of dollars contributed to campaigns.

 

whoa whoa whoa, there is a HUGE difference between cigarattes and fast food. Cigarettes contain high amounts of carcinogens and do the body no good. While people dont need oreos to survive, eating some isnt going to kill you, and more importantly isnt going to kill the person next to you either.

Pseudo-scientific? Do you have "more scientific" ones showing that milk is bad? We need to stop letting government educate our kids and take responsibility of parents to teach our kids good eating habits. There is no reason that mcdonalds should not be allowed to advertise. Heck, banning cig commercials is a violation of first amendment rights IMO. It's sad that because some parents cant teach their kids better, we are get censored programming.

Cigarettes to fastfood is such a bad comparison. Though John Banzhaf is making the same argument in an attempt to steal billions MORE from companies. Oh what the tort lawyers have done to this country.

We need to learn to make our own choices and not be forced into a lifestyle that someone thinks we shold stick to. Censoring the media DOES have that effect, and it is little more than social engineering.

Also, there are huge companies like kraft, that distrubite large amounts of products, are we going to outright ban kraft from the television becaue of some of their products? If not, who is going to decide what products are acceptable for kids?

edit: there was a good article on cnn today about obesity...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/06/15/ama.obesity.ap/index.html

Dr. Paul Handel of Houston told participants, "The obesity epidemic is not the fault of Krispy Kreme or McDonald's. Unless we rekindle some sense of personal responsibility ... 20 years from now we will still be struggling to treat" the problem.


Finally someone else sees it.

 

Megara, There are people who work all day and don't get any time for lunch, so they drive out to a mcdonalds or Burger King everyday once or twice, maybe even 3 times a day, and eat Fast food as most of their meals being that they don't have much time on their hands. My dad is one of them, he works all day and barely gets time to pack a lunch, so many times he is forced to go to a Mcdonalds and buy a meal. It is one of the leading causes of Obesity in this country, and this man, eating Fast food for his normal meals for only a month ended up losing years off his life, and had to get his stomach pumped. This is like a modern day version of "The Jungle", and everybody should see it to be aware of this problem.

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

the fact is he still made a choice. It's not that hard to make a healthy meal to bring with you, i know i do it everytime. It takes all of 5 seconds to make a cheese sandwhich on wheat bread and an apple with a bottle of water. Now, no one is too busy to not be able to work that into their scheduel. Anyways, what does it solve to ban mcdonalds in this case? So mcdonalds shuts down and what does he do for lunch? go somewhere else? Why didnt he go to that place before? As i said, people need to take more responsibility for their actions. Yes, i know its easier to hop in at mcdonalds and grab a hamburger and a coke, then worry about making a cheese sandwhich every morning, but come on, its his choice.

 

yrs ago fast food places didn't sell double cheese burgers either or super size there sodas. Now they give ya good deals for more food (along with the grease & super size calories) even some of their new salads aren't as healthy as they want ya to think. When I was working there and only got a side salad & fruit parfait for lunch someone just asked if I was sick of the burgers seeing as I was cooking them. And how do you know the grills are working right and actually cooking the food safely....the customer doesn't, unless they get red burgers & chicken sandwiches. Which does happen.

 

lets not start blaming corporations for giving us deals. What do you suggest? Ban all meat since the customer cant be 100% sure that the grill works? Come on, thats insane.

 

If you can't blame the corporations for wanting to make more money then who can you blame? If they can get you to buy more with their deals then they will.
The cashiers get so disappointed when they can't sell you a dessert or super size your meal. They used to always add to much salt to the fries and if they still automatically salt all the fries, they get frustrated if you ask them to make a fresh batch without salt.

 

they have to ask if you want super sized or fries or whatever, its their job. I've never noticed them getting sad...but who cares?

Of course we can make corporations have clean kitchens and safe equipment, thats what the food and health inspections are for. What we shuoldnt do is go "ok, mcdonalds is unhealthy, we need healthier burgers...boca burger time!"

 

sorry, i dont find nazish techniques to ban everything acceptable.

But god for forbid people actually have to make a responsible decision on their own. Do you really need government to do everything for you? How do you live life if that is the case?