...Suicide?

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  1. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    I couldn't agree more, Deranged. People who have never been through what we have been through can never understand where we're coming from or why we aren't like they are.
     
  2. *kushbaby*

    *kushbaby* Member

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    i think suicide is terrible. however i can't deny that i've attempted more than a few times.. got real close too... i spent 8 months in a mental hospital trying to get better... and i'm glad now that i'm alive. and i think that anyone who says that ppl who commit suicide are selfish... well cowardly maybe. but i HONESTLY believed that no one would care if i did or not... it's all in the person's mind. so to judge how someone handles their stress is totally ignorant... everyone's different...

    that's all i have to say really
     
  3. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    im not talking a small bottle, im talking the big one, but that is all, im not gonna talk about this with you, its like talking sexual techniques with a virgin or an eunuch
     
  4. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    i dont think suicide is that bad. i mean, it is a person dying, that is always bad to certain people. even a really horrible person might be important to someone. everyones life has precious potential.

    but its not quite as sad as shock accidents or random shooting or something. that shit is where the sad shit is at. even dying of disease is sadder than suicide. with suicide, the person made a choice. they had every chance to not die. so it aint that bad really.

    i think the only horrible thing about suicide is the stuff that tends to lead to it. the suicide itself.. in fact the whole death seems much less important when it's suicide.
    sort of like if some 'stage of grieving' was missed and you go straight on to 'reminiscing', in suicide
     
  5. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    Lmao, wdf is a "big bottle"? You goto the pharmacy and ask em' if you could have one those ol' big bottles?
     
  6. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    wasnt my script, and you must remember this was a looong time ago, like freshman yearish?

    yes a big bottle like 40 to 60, as opposed to the standard 13 to 16, you know for more pills than that. and i believe that the prescribing doctor is the one that insists on the size of the bottle

    dick
     
  7. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    Exactly my point, the doctor specifies the amount of pills, rendering the size of the bottle totally useless in defining the amount of pills -_-.
     
  8. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    are you that stupid? like a nigga can fit 60 pills in a 16 pill bottle? please get your head out of your ass -_-
     
  9. lootfish

    lootfish Member

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    i think that for someone who's in chronic pain (whatever type) suicide can be a great expression of self-love, a rejection of a society trying to impose an ugly sense of "duty" towards just being alive, because this society and its science can't see us as anything more than survival machines. An act of taking true responsibility.
     
  10. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    I think there is no better way to kill yourself than suicide..
     
  11. †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg

    †ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg Eminent Herbalist

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    I feel sorry for you.
     
  12. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Anyone who thinks suicide is the easy way out has obviously never been at that point. Been there, done that, carefully wrote out the note on what I wanted my final words to be, yada yada. Thankfully I didnlt have a job at the time otherwise it may very well have happened, cause I experiment in different ways, couldn't do it with water because I have a huge phobia of drowning, I never actually thought of hanging which was probably a good thing, and I didn't want to be in massive pain my last few minutes alive so I decided on either cutting myself once I got enough money for mad opiates, or just buying a gun and bang to the head. Again, thankfully I had no money at the time and then this good shit happened, and ect, point is I'm alive, or am I, dun du dun, ZombieMadcap!

    But you really can't understand how horrible and worthless you feel as a person unless you've been there, it doesn't matter what other people think of you either because you feel they'd be better off without you in the long run too. No offense, well actual much offense to people that say it's weak, deciding to end existence as you know it is in fact one of the hardest choices you'll ever make in your life


    Interesting psychological fact, women attempt suicide much more then men, but men are more successful at it
     
  14. comfortably_numb9

    comfortably_numb9 an asshole

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    ^I was gonna use asprin, but i didnt want my parents to find me or my sister so i didnt do it the day i was planning on, and thn i was caught and told them i wasnt happy and now im seeing someone.
    but the reason i thought about it was because i felt like i was always alone, i had friends that i talked to and hung out with, but up in my head i was always alone. but ive worked passed it, and now i need to see a phyciartrist to see if i have depression
     
  15. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    women use it for attention while men use it for purpose
     
  16. makesmomcry420

    makesmomcry420 shlimazl

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    on second thought, screw you turkey, believe what you want. but I know my experiences a little bit better then you. since well, you know, i was there, and you werent. penis breath
     
  17. sarahrei

    sarahrei ~Lover~

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    People who say that suicide is selfish has never had to wake up every morning to nothing but gut wrenching depression, real depression is crippling. I can see every reason why they think they should do it. Pills for depression never fix it, they only cover it up, it can also majorly fuck with your liver in the long run, and you have a higher rate of suicidal thoughts on the pills.

    When all you can think, dream, live, is this undenyable pain, that makes you feel like you NEED to die. You can't breathe, you can't eat, your soul feels awful and you feel sick physically too.

    It's not like you'll ever be totally better, you can talk to someone but they never really understand you, or you can take pills, everyday, for the rest of your life that can put you into liver failure.

    Yeah, I can understand suicide, and I don't think it's selfish. The only thing thats selfish about it is the people that expect you to stay for them and live in that kind of pain.

    My $.02
     
  18. woodsman

    woodsman Senior Member

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    Elequently stated, sarahrei. It sounds like you've been there yourself, probably a lot more than once.

    You perfectly described what many people in my social pool could never understand.

    I've been there for a long time and understand first hand the kind of pain you describe.

    You've done an excellent job of wording feelings I was never able to put into words.

    If you don't mind, if I would like to copy and share your post with some of my friends so they can get a better understanding of the feeling. Not necesarily concerning suicide but in discussions about depression in general. They just don't seem to get it. You have to have been there to really understand, but perhaps some better words would help.
     
  19. Some call me Jim

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    i think once you've been suicidal, you'll never be able to fully support the idea that it is wrong.
    and i think if you've never been suicidal, but seen the hurt that relatives suffer after a suicide, you'll never fully accept that it could be right.


    its all very strange.
     
  20. puffed up in my ford

    puffed up in my ford Senior Member

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    couldnt say it better myself either.people just dont understand what it feels like to be in a constant state of pain that nothing and i mean NOTHING can make go away.ive thought about suicide a few times.ive come close,had the blade to my throat.but i dont want to feel,wait or see it.i just it to be overwith.

    part of my pain,you ask?my mom was stabbed 3 timmes in the heart by her now exhusband back in nov 1987,i was 9 then.he was beating on my brothers who werent old enogh to know or say anything,he told me to not to say anything or he would kill my mother.well i told her.i ha thought it was the right thing to do.i thought she could help them and protect herself and me.well he got her in the car one night after they seperated,she asked and filed for a divorce.he stabbed her three times in the heart.then locked her between the folding rear seat so she couldnt get out or anything.wich according to the doctor it was good cuz it slowed the bleeding.she had open heart surgery.she lived,but she has never been the same.she changed!my mom DIED that night!!i have been searching for her since november of 1987 and realize now november of 2008 that she is dead.i wasted 21 years looking for somebody that will never be found.

    i dont know who the woman is that thinks she is my mother but shes not my mom,not even close.shes mean and nasty for no reason and that has caused me to be the same way towards people.it ruined my last relationship.
     
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