Students Battle Police in UK! Prince Charles and Camilla Attacked!

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  1. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    It really does happen, you know. Just because you can't google search it doesn't mean it doesn't.

    My funding goes through my local council- i'd be very surprised if you could find elicit information about it on google.
     
  2. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    This is where you're sidetracking. The system he is talking about isn't the same one you're showing measurements of. You're talking about grades. Your argument is irrelivant in this situation.

    What he was praising in the german school system is the ability and ease of pursuing higher education, because of the benifet of aid fom buisness. If you want to deconstruct that point, look for statistics on percentage of german high school graduates who continue to follow paths of higher education compared to other countries.

    If you can find the proper statistics to support your argument, I'll give you your credit. But you haven't yet done that. You're diverting to a misleadingly related but fundimentaly seperate issue.

    Or curse some more in bold enlarged font, if you so choose.
     
  3. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    Ok, if I actually get you evidence

    would you apologise to me?? I would make that deal in a new york minute.
     
  4. lillallyloukins

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    security would have been well aware of all this happening... no precautions taken.... very sus...
     
  5. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I looked into this out of curiosity and found this:

    Students can only receive support from the sdw (Stiftung der Deutschen Wirtschaft - Foundation of German Business) if they actively work in one of the scholarship holder groups in Germany or in one of the 3 groups outside Germany (London, Paris, Switzerland) for at least 3 semesters, attend the group meetings regularly and take part in the sdw events programme in Germany.

    http://www.daad.de/deutschland/foer...chrichtung=8&land=106&status=2&seite=1&daad=0

    http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiftung_der_Deutschen_Wirtschaft&ei=T5QCTeP9FYGdOuDYsbEB&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDcQ7gEwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DStiftung%2Bder%2BDeutschen%2BWirtschaft%2B-%2BFoundation%2Bof%2BGerman%2BBusiness%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Div

    It seems money is put into a pot and distributed to applicants.
    So, nothing happens.


    But, IB might be talking about a specific scheme.

    I'm sure there are variations on this theme in most countries.
     
  6. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    That is not what you said originally, and it is not what I was speaking against.

    And yes, if you find me proof that what you orinally said was wrong, I will apologize for calling it bullshit...

    But until then, it IS bullshit...

    And just so there is no confusion...

    Now even though I have already shown the proof that the german system does not work like this... feel free to try to find proof of it.
     
  7. NomadQueen

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    im dislexic so the title i read as "nudests battles police"
     
  8. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    My name is odon not The Imaginary Being.

    IB said Business and sponsorship.
    Over-inflated it as "part of the German system" but basically got it right, imho.
    But it doers not really matter as I'm fairly positive similar schemes operate in the UK.
     
  9. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    I think we could enjoy those videos a lot more then the student ones....
     
  10. ChronicTom

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    Sorry about that odon, didn't catch that...

    However, it doesn't change that what you said, was not what TIB said, and it is not even basically right, even if there are exceptions that allow for it.

    Even if their system did work like that (which is doesn't), it still doesn't change the fact that their system is on par with other systems... Not better.
     
  11. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I think he was on the right track. We'll have to agree to disagree.
     
  12. Sam_Stoned

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    still arguing the point that nobody argued? No one said their system was the best. IB suggested to incorprate a varation of their apprenticeship system to help with high tuition costs.

    Can you people stop feeding the troll? he clearly doesn't carre what he's arguing about as long as it gets a responce.
     
  13. shaggie

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    Prime Minister Cameron's response about who is responsible for the lapse in security:

    "Let's be very clear about where responsibility lies," Cameron, speaking in Downing Street. "Responsibility for smashing property, or violence, lies with the people who perpetrate that violence and I want to see them arrested and punished in the correct way."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101210/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_royal_security

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  14. ChronicTom

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    So, you think that using a system that doesn't produce any better results, will improve results?


    Sam, you are free to do as you wish, but you may wish to stop making these personal attacks on me.

    Or not... as you wish... Either way, it will be to my benefit.
     
  15. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Do y'all know that if the Gun Powder Plot had been successful this thread wouldn't even exist?
     
  16. Sam_Stoned

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    That particular aspect of the system is not related in any way to grade levels. I said look up the rates of german high school graduates who continue to further their education compared to other countries.

    THAT would be reflecting the results of the system that you're trying to talk about. Grades aren't the issue, what aren't you getting? The fact that you're arguing a point that doesn't even relate to what you're trying to belittle leads me to believe you're doing it more for the sake of argument than anything else.

    Get on topic.
     
  17. ChronicTom

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    Sam, this started from a comment TIB said... which I have quoted enough times for it to be totally redundant to quote again.

    From what he said in that quote, I asked a question, which started this whole thing, that you then decided you were going to jump in on as an opportunity to attack me.

    His original statement was that they should use a system such as the germans use... which the germans don't use...

    However, even if the germans did use that system, it has done nothing to make their system better then other systems that don't have such a system.

    As to your idea that my facts aren't about whether the system is better or not, seems you don't think how well people perform in them is a good measure... That link I offered, also says this;

    I think part of your problem here is that you wish to equate enrollment figures with the success of a school system...

    A school system can be 100% free and have a 100% attendance rate, if it doesn't teach people what they need to know, it isn't a system someone should be trying to emulate.
     
  18. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Why not?
     
  19. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    if the gunpowder plot had been successful what would anonymous wear?
     
  20. lillallyloukins

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    idk.... the window was apparently open "by mistake"... it looked shut to me but i can't really comment because i haven't seen all the vids yet... sounds like the media are just trying to demonize protesters... make people fear the uprising and sympathize with the current dumbing-down system, etc etc etc... same old.... :rolleyes:
     

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