Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

I have nothing to apologize to christians about. They know it when they look into my eyes. LOL

Whomsoever believes in satan and sin and evil wants to judge above all, but cannot. They cannot bear judgement! : D

Beyond good and evil is where my family is. Always! And do they know it?! I devised a new innocence, like Zarathustra, for myself. From out of the teaching of the eternal recurrence eternity itself is to be understood. Realized.

Because I love humans more than their gods, they shall not have a saviour. How could they receive, as opposed to deceive and do away with the superhuman, if it is not born in and of themselves? And so I give them the pleasure-giver!

: D The self itself, which handles all else with ease, being over making virtue of it.
Making joy from itself is to be our only labour, our past-time for all time! You don't believe in change? In transformation? What impoverished notion of eternity is eating away at your existence?! Your hearts!

The futility of death! That is the only human law that Jesus broke, and I have forgiven him for it.

Will the christians say I am wrong?! Of course they will! LOL Isn't that all they can say of my words, and even me?! They reject the creator in themselves.

 

Try not to overdose on the Nietzsche.

 

: D

Just trying to have a bit of fun around this joint.

(Don't mind me christians! Keep strengthening your bibles!)

 

Yep, I'll say it, You're in the wrong Forum, does that make you feel better?

 

Once again, you are in the wrong forum.

 

You have a very good heart. The Lord needs you. God wants to use you for his glory!

 

Fake!

 

Yeah, it was out there in 1979 by somebody using the pseudonym R.C. Christian, who hired Elberton Granite Finishing Company to build it. The motives are obscure but rumor ties it to the Rosicucians. There are lots of nuts in the world, and unfortunately some of them have money. But what's the big deal? How much influence is it having? I'm much more concerned about people like you who help to discredit Christianity by giving non-Christians the idea we're all a bunch of ignorant nut jobs.

The most disturbing part of your case is its brushing off mountains of empirical evidence gathered over the centuries by conscientious scientists and scholars and subjected to rigorous peer review, because it doesn't agree with a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Book--and suggesting that all evidence and reasoning that seems to contradict your views is the work of Satan. When it gets that basic, intelligent discourse with you is a wast of time. Evolution may not be true, but it does tie together all the known evidence from a wide variety of scientific disciplines, it is empirically based, and it is empirically refutable. Can you say the same about any of your arguments? As for that $250,000 offer, if the judges are Bible thumping Creationists like yourself, it might as well be $250 trillion.

 

Welcome to the thread Okiefreak.

But what's the big deal? How much influence is it having?

Oh my Brother. These 'commandments' have been in the process of completion for a very long time. Take a look at the world around you and see. Look into it. I am not a nut job. This is happening, the NWO is coming to a city near you. How do we know for sure ? The bible says so as well.

brushing off mountains of empirical evidence gathered over the centuries by conscientious scientists and scholars and subjected to rigorous peer review, because it doesn't agree with a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Book--and suggesting that all evidence and reasoning that seems to contradict your views is the work of Satan.

1. There is no empirical evidence for MACRO evolution. At all.
2. A "Majority" consensus is not proof or evidence. In fact the majority believe the Earth is about 6,000 years old and God did it.
3. What Bronze age Book ?
4. Satan is at work...no question. Our Lord will defeat him though.

I walk in truth. Everybody believes in God. Everybody. Just some suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

Bible says:

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

It does not say the "amazing atheist" said in his heart, There is no God..

or

The "amazing scientist" said in his heart...

It says the fool. If you say there is no God you are a fool because deep down he has revealed this fact to you but some suppress truth. I apologize if you do believe in God, so I am talking generally.

2Corinthians 10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.

God wants us to think his thoughts and make them obedient to Jesus. So, the scholars without any evidence for evolution or the big bang are not doing this and are foolish. Every single thought into captivity for our amazing Lord. He is that worthy to me! Amen.

 

I believe that the problem is that you were unclear as to whether the NWO is a good thing or a bad thing.

 

I guess it depends on how you look at it. As a Christian I am not worried. For our King will lead us to victory. It's just a obstacle to hurdle over and while doing so it can strengthen your faith anyhow. But it is inherently evil, the NWO. They want to depopulate, control and zone the entire world into some sort of slavery. I can write a thread on this...on what I believe is happening and what has happened. And why ?

1peter 3:15

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of hope that is in you with meekness and fear.

Peace.

 

Sorry I missed this post, I will answer it now.

Okay.

First the Bible does not itself say exactly how old the Earth is.

Second, a common person, who knew Hebrew, reading the scriptures would know that the word "Yom" means "a period of time" and would not automatically assume that it meant 6 "literal" 24 day as you say.

I don't really care much how old the Earth is, since the Bible silent on the age of the Earth its age is not a concern for my faith.

But if these "Gurus and scholars" start telling me that because the Earth may be billions of years old, that means life has been on earth for billions of years, that is where I draw the line. No matter how the word "Yom" is understood, whether it be 6/24 hour days or 6/7000 year days, life has not existed on this planet more than 50,000 years and mankind has only existed on this planet for less than 10,000 years. Thus there is no room for "billions" of years of evolution.

Remember this is not a condemnation of all science but only of what is falsely called science. Though science mankind has learned many things but evolution is not one of them.

This is a scripture I find helpful when dealing with "man's wisdom":
Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge
(Job 28:28; Psalm 111:10; Proverbs 9:10)

 

Efforts to deny the fossil transition from dinosaurs to birds, eohippus to the modern horse, or the Try Theobald, Douglas L. "29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent." The Talk.Origins Archive. Vers. 2.83. 2004. 12 Jan, 2004 <http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/> ; for evidence by Christian scholars, see Kenneth Millier, Finding Darwin's God or the Bio-Logos Forum, sponsored by Dr. Francis Collins. You might even try some of the Intelligent Design backers like Michael Behe, who accepts common ancestry between apes and us.

Majority of whom. I'm more interested in a majority of scientists, especially those doing work in the field. Consensus is never "proof", but it's not chopped liver either. The proof lies in the peer reviewed research. And of course God did it.

I'm sure He will, but not by attacking God's finest creation, human reason. People who spread a mind-crippling disease and call it Christianity are doing the very opposite of the Lord's work.

Your love and faith in the Lord are evident brother, but Christians can be foolish, too. Fortunatley, many are saved despite their invincible ignorance.

 

Also rambleON, I was wondering what ever became of this discussion?

What did you come up with?

 

Thanks for clearing that up, I believe that some thought that you were promoting the NWO and thus some of the posts seemed at cross purposes.

 

Evidence of "transition fossils" is skimpy at best and natural variation in kinds can explain a lot of what are called transition fossils. I'm sure if someone was not familiar with the variety dogs there are and were to find only fossils of them, they might also assume that they had found transition fossils but we would know that they are only the natural variety of dogs, Chihuahua and Great Dane, for instance.

As for what is called "transition fossils", such as seen in the similarities in structure from one to the next. That can be explained by the fact that God was not under constraints to make every creature totally different from the next. If one structure seems to work, there is no reason that pattern can't be adapted to other creatures, thus the seemingly slight "evolutionary" changes that are found.

And then there is the platypus.

 

I am glad i did not have to bring up kinds.

What is a kind?

This question is more directed to rambleON, but if the Bible gives is scientific concordant, wouldn't defining kind be easier than it appears to be?

The Bible can be very specific (like locust, grasshopper, and bald locust) but also more general. What is a kind?

 

Personally, I have no clue.

The Bible does not say what a kind consists of but it does say that God created each animal according to it's kind. Which in context seems to indicate that there is a barrier which kinds can not cross in order to make new kinds.

Well that's my take but I too would like hear rambleON's take.

 

I think kind is pretty straightforward. Kind is the the primary character of something that determines the class to which it belongs

 

Not a very good analogy I don't think. The natural variety of dogs does not consist of chihuahua or great dane. Great dane and chihuahua are products of selective breeding, of human intervention. There are no other single species that displays the kind of variation of form that domesticated animals do.

So animals are similar because it is allowed, it is within the rules?
Why can't god create in incremental steps over long periods of time, since a day in the instance of the creation story is an undetermined amount of time?
What of extinctions? We know extinctions occur because they happen within the span of a single human life, we can see the animals disappear.

There exists in the animal kingdom built in genetic diversity. The same substance is used to create many different kinds. The creation story does not list all of the life that we recognize on this planet. There is no day for microbes. What of recombinant entities that did not exist before humans tampered with genetic material.

I am not sure why it is important to some to turn poetry into a technical manual that supposedly dates the earth. The conclusion that the earth is only 50'000 years old is an example of human minds trying to categorize divine designs. Read the rocks if you want to date the earth, not the bible.