Still So many unbelievers on the virus

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  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    CDC: 299,028 excess deaths from 1/26/20-11/3/20
    You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
     
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  3. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    I am glad that my explanations helped.

    In a nutshell, covid is a very nasty virus and needs to be SLOWED DOWN for the reasons that I highlighted.
    If governments presented the facts CORRECTLY, rather than as they fear, most people would understand and cooperate.
    Treating the public as idiots will never work.

    I also think that some good will come out of all this.
    Already, companies are considering allowing staff to work from home for 3 days a week permanently, thus cutting the spread of colds and future viruses, as well as cutting the pollution affects and costs of commuting in large cities.
    I am fairly certain that if people was asked to wear a mask on public transport at peak times, most people would be quite happy.
    Looking at a personal example. Every year, our youngest daughter suffered every cold and virus, constantly making her life miserable. Since wearing her mask and largely working from home she has not had a single cold or day when she felt too ill to work since last March.
     
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  4. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    That would only be true if the MEDIA decided to publish figures on Hypertension deaths (secondary to you) and then on traffic accidents, causing you to appear in both figures.

    Nether the official mortality figures, or the World health authority figures would make that mistake.

    It is PURELY the media who are incapable and unqualified to read the data correctly.

    Covid involved in a death and covid CAUSING a death are completely different matters. Here in the UK, you can deduct 750 from the daily covid death figure, since these people were already dying from cancer.

    Most people are confused by all of this. I have asked at least a dozen people what THEY thought the percentage increase in the death rate was and answers were between 50 and 100%.............. The TRUE figure is +2.7%

    PS, I am not an epidemiologist, but I am qualified in cardio thoracic surgery. I worked on a research team for 12 years, so I can interpret medical data.
    PPS, My last line was not intended to sound rude.
     
  5. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Donald Duck has the fucking nuclear football, you might as well be talking to fucking chickens.
     
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  6. newo

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    Here's your unbelievers:

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  7. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Killed in 9/11, Iraq & Afghan Wars: 11,819
    Killed by Covid 19 in the past 3 days: 11,765
     
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    Don't really mean to "like" this post...
     
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    Oooo... Hashtags... Must be important.
     
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  10. Tyrsonswood

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    Yup... More hashtags.
     
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  11. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    He's hashing it out.
     
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  13. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    That is not true, Worldwide, Beijing flue was involved in the deaths of 100,000 people in 2019. 2020 figures are likely to be similar, but during the covid peaks, it may not be fully diagnosed, since the advanced symptoms and ICU treatment are exactly the same
     
  14. BeatrixPothead

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    You make a habit of posting links to things you haven't read, and of drawing erroneous conclusions from the titles alone.
    Read the report, including paragraph that begins with: "The findings in this report are subject to at least five limitations." The report doesn't say that the number of deaths has increased. It's measuring actual current deaths against "expected" deaths, a made-up calculation that is not the same as a mortality rate or an average of recent mortality rates. The whole notion of "excess" is an opinion based on an estimate. The limitations are stark and glaring, as the report's authors point out. It isn't an increase.

    The fact is that the death rate in the US, as in many other places, has declined over the past year. My opinion is that you have problems with reading comprehension, likely caused by a short attention span, poor eyesight, or both. On the other hand, you may simply derive pleasure from misstatement and nonsequitur.
     
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  15. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    "Non sequitur" is two words, rather like a logical fallacy which you're clearly more familiar with; "ad hominem".
     
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    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    It's just like the middle ages.
     
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    I'm blood type O. My neighbors are A. They are all very unhealthy n obese except for one. N they all got it.
     
  19. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yep, In a recent poll 70% of democrats said they would take the coronavirus vaccine, whereas only 30% of republicans said the would take the vaccine if it was available
     
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    So can we expect a 70% death rate among the red neck republicans ???
     
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    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    No I suspect many of them will take the vaccine, but will not tell anyone out of fear of being ostracized by fellow republicans.

    Btw Yesterday we found out that former President Trump and his wife Melania took the vaccine back in January (while still president) but never told anyone.

    Former VP Pence took the vaccine in front of a worldwide audience but Trump didn’t want to encourage others to take the vaccine because it goes against the narrative that the virus doesn’t exist.
     
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