Stacey Abrams and Valerie Jarrett

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Aerianne, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. If it was REAL voter suppression, doesn't it stand to reason it would become a federal matter rather quickly? Kemp would become famous fast, and not in a good way. If there was a genuine voter suppression case, in Georgia, the federal government would be all over it to teach those racist, unruly southerners yet another lesson. And yet, none of that is happening.

    By the way, leading with "you can't be that naive" is getting needlessly personal. Surely you have better ways to boost your ego.
     
  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    And yet more accusations of voter suppression in Georgia

    Two more lawsuits came this week, targeting Gwinnett county for its rejection of absentee ballots, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

    The county, which covers suburbs of Atlanta and in which a majority of voters are black, Latino and Asian, rejected 8.5% of the absentee ballots it had received by Sunday, the Journal-Constitution found. That’s far more than any other county in the state, with an average of just 2% of ballots rejected statewide.

    Georgia: voter suppression claims ramp up in governor’s race as lawsuits are filed
     
  3. lode

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    The Supreme Court in 2013 invalidated major parts of the voter rights act, ruling that racism was no longer a problem, and crippling the federal governments ability to respond to voter suppression. Their legal justification was that racism was no longer a big deal.

    Supreme Court Invalidates Key Part of Voting Rights Act

    Any remaining enforcement of voter suppression would go to the DOJ which is currently headed by Jefferson Sessions, who in 1985 failed at prosecuting Albert Turner for helping minorities vote. Albert Turner led MLK's funeral procession.

    Albert Turner (civil rights activist) - Wikipedia

    So yeah. 'None of that is happening'.

    My ego's pretty healthy. No offense was intended. I just can't think of many non-nefarious rationales to support purging 70,000 people from the voter roles right before an election other than naivety or deliberate support for voter suppression.
     
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  4. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I didn't like Kemp in the primary. I wanted Michael Williams for Governor of Georgia but then he pulled that Deportation Bus thing and I decided against him.
     
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  5. That was seriously weird. And yet, pure comedy when they couldn't keep it running. Probably bought it at a state auction.
     
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  6. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Haven't you heard? The federal government is now in the hands of Republicans and they're cool with racist unruly southerners, especially when they help them win elections.
     
  7. It doesn't seem like the republicans are in control of much.
     
  8. Okiefreak

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    The Presidency, Congress, the federal courts, most state governments, Fox--what more do you want?
     
  9. Again, it doesn't seem like they're in any sort of "control".
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Let's say "power" then, if you want to play semantic games. They're in positions to make decisions backed by the force of government.
     
  11. Maybe, but then, aren't the republicans supposed to bring back Jim Crow and ultimately slavery? Sure seems like they're dragging their feet. And when do the back ally abortions begin?

    Really though, the republicans are fooling themselves if they think they have any control over the bureaucrats who clearly get a serious charge out of foiling GOP attempts to do anything. Personally, I think the republicans deserve every minute of it. For decades they have been the party of taking it on the chin to win elections passively or by clever tactics. I'm thankful GW was unable to privatize social security just ahead of the housing bubble's bust, it would have been a disaster. But then, I have little faith in social security anyway, and that is owed to both parties.

    This is why I don't see either party ever being entirely in "control" of the US government. So much of what they are always investigating is shit they have done to each other, without regard for the Americans at all.
     
  12. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    They've only been in power for two years, and have been busy tax cutting for rich folks and court packing. No, I don't think they're supposed to bring back Jim Crow and ultimately slavery--just chip away at voting rights and other gains won in the civil rights movement. You're quite correct that neither party is "entirely" in control, if by that you mean the ability to effect its will immediately on every particular of society. But dominance by one party can have a transformative effect on a country--as in the New Deal and the Reagan Revolution. Your "plague on both houses" schtick is simply a green light to let the dominant party, the Republicans, have their way.
     
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  13. I expect either party to think it has a green light when they win an election. Doesn't mean I have to like either one. I try to vote as close to issues as this government will allow. Where I live people still draw long sentences for meager amounts of pot. Neither party has made significant progress on this issue since the 70s. All this nonsense about paying off a whore and stumbling down stairs is theater designed to distract most of us from the really depressing issues.
     
  14. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Look at this confusion. Black Panthers carrying rifles campaigning for Stacey Abrams in Atlanta on November 3, 2018.

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    Video at https://www.the site that's not supported at HFs.com/gagunowners/videos/2121598931217357/
     
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  15. They seem friendly enough. One guy has a purse (not judging) and another has striped socks. I wonder what the 5 stars mean.
     
  16. Meliai

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    It's a tactical purse
    All manly and shit
     
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    lode Banned

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    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    They were in the same Tim Burton movie.

    Edward Scissorhands of course, what else would I mean? ;)

    Anyway, hope Abrams wins
     
  19. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    No. You. Don't.
     
  20. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Yes I do.

    I dont really care if the Republicans lose seats

    Just love rubbing in the butthurt to the Trump whingers
     
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