Stacey Abrams and Valerie Jarrett

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Aerianne, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't respect Stacey Abrams because she is focused on being a victim of White Patriarchy.

    That's what she considers her "Ace In The Hole".

    It distracts from any other issue in the election.

    It's a terrible platform to stand on, imho.
     
  2. Balbus

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    Can you give us examples of this - White Patriarchy victim platform?
     
  3. Aerianne

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    National attention helps fuel Democrat Abrams’ bid for governor

    It's alot of what this article states, but also you'd have to be "on the ground" here and living in this place where her constituents live. There's an air thick with racial tension because of this focus on her gender and her skin color. That did not have to be and it should not be the focus of this election but it is.

    If you speak with average people here, they can't tell you anything about the issues in this race. They only know that Stacey Abrams would be the first black female governor and that is it.

    The focus of the election has been robbed away from the issues.
     
  4. The issue in Georgia is not about voter suppression, it's about updating the official lists. The voters that have been flagged have not voted in years, so they have to confirm their identity before they can vote. That's all. Some states don't take this extra effort. Instead they just drop people and let them find out the hard way. All these selected voters have to do is show up to vote in Georgia and the flag next to their name goes away. The state is not obliged to do the research into a voter's status or even if they are still alive.

    So consider how you'd confirm voters who have not voted in a while. Twisting this Georgia thing into a sinister GOP plan to suppress black votes, is bullshit politics. Abrams KNOWS exactly what's happening, but she also KNOWS how STUPID many of her supporters are, so she's playing to the dumbass vote.

    It's as stupid as the issue with the drapes in a previous Georgia election that turned out to be a leftover issue from the previous office holder. Even after the truth was known the false talking point kept coming up.
     
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  5. Balbus

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    So let’s get this straight you seem to be implying a black women should never stand for election because that would be a distraction from the issues?

    Sorry but this comes across as if you seem to have an issue with her rather than with her issues

    And the article you linked to seem to actually say the opposite that she for one does want to focus on issues

    “Abrams said its necessary to target first-time voters in what she calls overlooked parts of the state, traveling to them and explaining her positions on issues that are central to her campaign, including public education, the expansion of Medicaid and gun safety. “I want to give people something to vote for and not against,” she said.”

    And wouldn’t it be a big indication of there been a bit of a White Patriarchy in place if it’s such a really big deal if a black woman stands for office?

     
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  6. Balbus

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    Panic

    OK so it would seem to me that if that was correct the political and racial mix of those been examined and where it was taking place should correspond to the population mix of Georgia

    White 55.9%

    Black 30.5%

    Yet the 50,000 or so voters that have supposedly been disenfranchise by the methods used are I’m told up to 80% non-white democratic leaning voters.

    It also seems to be about names with the suspention of voters been about slight discrepancy in how a voter’s name is hyphenated, spelled or spaced.

    LOL - Can you BACK UP this opinion with any ACTUAL evidence.
     
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  7. Noserider

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    According to some straight white men, straight white men are the most persecuted group in the country.
     
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  8. Asmodean

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    It could also be that the focus of the election differs per group or voter.
     
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  10. Aerianne

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    No.

    I did not imply that.

    You are infamous for twisting words.

    That's not a good way to have discourse, Balbus.

    I'll discuss this topic but not with you.

    Next.
     
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  11. Aerianne

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    That's true but the focus of the Governors race should not be Stacey Abram's gender and ethnicity.
     
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    The Great B.. Acts like a moderator. Does no real work for the website..
     
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  13. Aerianne

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    I know the issues and I know where she stands on the issues.

    That's not my point.

    The point is that I had to go digging for that info because it is not what is being presented as the issue.
     
  14. Aerianne

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  15. Balbus

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    So let’s get this straight you seem to be implying a black women should never stand for election because that would be a distraction from the issues?

    Sorry but you seem to be saying that if a black woman, any black women, stood in this election that people would be focusing on that and not on the issues - which seems to imply you think that a black women shouldn’t stand because it would always be a distraction.

    That’s not twisting words that is just reading you posts.

    [my bold]

    If you think the problem is a black women standing then your solution would seem to be that a black women should never stand.

    Or are you saying you think this is all Stacey Abrams fault – that if any other black women had stood nobody would be focusing on her gender and skin colour?

    LOL hell you had to dig? It took me a 5 second google search - what search engine are you using, carrier pigeon?

    But seriously, again, what would be your solution - to have no black women stand in elections?

    Also you do seem to be blaming her personally

    [my bold]

    Think about this - It was you that brought up the subject of her race and gender, and it is the the thing you keep bringing up - it seems to be the main thing YOU want to say about her, it seems to be YOUR main focus.

    You are complaining about the very thing you are perpetuating.

    Why is that?
     
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    Georgia County Orders Elderly Black Voters Off Bus Taking Them To The Polls

    Dozens of black senior citizens in rural Georgia were ordered off a bus bound for the polls after county officials said the event constituted prohibited “political activity.”

    A Jefferson County clerk reportedly told staff members from the Leisure Center in Louisville on Monday ― the first day of in-person early voting in Georgia ― that roughly 40 black people couldn’t take part in the trip after receiving a complaint from an unnamed caller.

    The trip had been organized by the nonpartisan Black Voters Matter, which is embarking on a bus tour across several southern states with the goal of urging black people to vote. The caller said the bus, which was painted with the words “The South is Rising Tour,” should not be allowed to bring people to the polls, reported The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
     
  17. lode

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    You can't be that naive. Brian Kemp is supervising his own election and as the Georgia Secretary Of State is making it as difficult to vote as possible.

    It's not a coincidence that these voter supression tactics disproportionately affect minorities.

    Here's more voter supression from Georgia.

    With 19 Days to Midterms, Georgia Is Rejecting Ballots Over Handwriting
     
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    2016 was about Clinton's emails and Trumps tape with Billy Bush. Elections being about issues are endangered.
     
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  19. Aerianne

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    Yeah, and that is no good.
     
  20. Balbus

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    Yes I agree so why do you keep concentrating on Stacey Abrams being black and female rather than looking at and discussing her policies?
     
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