St. Louis Protest

So this black kid in st louis just got shot and his friend got beat up, both were unarmed, so today the community went out and protested all day and here into the night, and the police arrived with a civilianized apv, a humvee, and a firetruck, not to mention they were dressed in swat gear salt rock shotguns (spas12), rubber bullet rifles, kevlar helmet and bodyarmour and to top it all off gas masks and a force i'd have to say conservatively 100-200, against protesters wearing tank tops shorts and shoes...as i watching this all play out the police black out the streets throw the tear gas and with the shields up front began marching against a peaceful force of civilians, piling them into wagons as they were caught, just because it was getting late and st. louis placed a curfew in that specific area...after watching this it was plainly obvious that it was just a military offesive, the tear gas, body armour, and old iraq war civilianized armoured vehicles, they just deployed a sizable force using tactical offensive maneuvers according to any other person in the world that would be an act of war or at least hostility so my question is why the hell are we putting up with a government using the police force as a gestapo cleaning the streets of protesters arresting whom ever they want abusing their powers, if you look at any other country in the world and when they have a protest when the police come people dont run they're not afraid and they stand up to the police, but here in the usa when the police come most not all people tend to run from the confrontation, when a peaceful protest is attacked you are left with no other option then become defensive and protect yourself with means of counter attacking maneuvers, you tried to be the bigger person hypothetically yet the gestapo came and squashed it.....i just dont see how people dont notice since we're always looking for terrorist that they are all here attacking its own civilians and has been for a while just because we have a democracy and 'free' doesnt mean we dont live in a autocracy...apparently you need to put idi amin's face on every presidents body for people to realize and look at the statistics and data of every american death since 1954 and every death caused by america, the united states regime is worse than the third reich or stalins ussr probably closer to mao zedong...no wonder practically every place in the world hates america not only because of the military actions but rather the lack of action by the civilian populace, we run from action here its time people woke the fuck up and did something about it instead of bitching about nothing being done, (sure thats hypocritical since im ranting on here), but we cant rely on corrupt politicians anymore to change things, we the people must stand up and take charge,(every american knows how to balance a checkbook so why cant washington), its time i guess for another independence from a monarchy or autocracy what ever label you want to give it.

 

I watched this today and it made me angry. That property owner and his friends were right!

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/12/ferguson_tear_gas_video_angry_but_apparently_unarmed_residents_face_attack.html

 

The guy did get shot after fighting with the police office. The police office has several facial injuries.
The police had to show a presence because this is not just protests but this is also riots. Places are being looted and violence is also happening.

Why do the so called "black leaders" need to try to fuel racial flames? Why do they pick and choose what to get worked up over? Gang violence is in St.Louis and I guess they think that black on black murder is ok? Or maybe this is ok..."A shooting Sunday afternoon left a St. Louis woman dead and put three others, including a nine-month-old, in the hospital. Four adults and a baby were in a car in the 2500 block of North Market Street, in the St. Louis Place neighborhood, when unknown suspects opened fire around 12:20 p.m"

 

Good post to the OP. You kinda lost me a little there at the end... you know, saying the us is worst than those other places.... (but in some ways even if that you have a point, simply in the fact that people don't THINK it's worse or even similar in any ways to those things- so obviously thinks are more subtle and that can be much more dangerous). Anyways, just wanna say again, great post and it is totally time to stop allowing the police force in the us to use whatever (often unnecc.) force THEY deem necessary and accepting all their cover ups and allowing their good ole boy network to rule without scrutiny.


And vance, of course black on black violence is not a good thing. But just because black gang members often shoot and kill each other as well as innocent bystanders that does not mean that people should not get worked up when the POLICE... who are SUPPOSED to be here to "PROTECT AND SERVE" abuse their powers and end up taking lives when it is not necessary. Apples and oranges and one does not exclude the other.

 

This is so depressing. Have you guys been keeping up with what's ACTUALLY going on, or are you watching the mainstream media news? MSM is NOT yelling the truth.

 

What's your source?

 

Vance, are you an officer in that community? If not where do you get your info as to the unnamed officer's injuries?

 

so what if there was a struggle...the fucking popo should NEVER have stopped those 2 boys in the first place...

they should be hanging that cop out to dry....I hope his life is ruined and he goes to jail where he will be dealt real justice


and.....last nights protest was peaceful

 

Ranger the reports about his facial injuries are all over the place. Also that the gun was fired inside the car during a struggle. I am not saying if this turns out that the guy was shot with his hands up that the officer should not be charged, but as of right now, innocent until proven guilty.

AT my point is that you have people up in arms about one shooting, that may or may not have been justified, yet you have a lot of other shootings that go unnoticed because it is black on black. It is apples to apples because it is death that is unjustified (depending on this outcome).

 

innocent until proven guilty?

how about...innocently walking down the street the day before you go to college and a cop hassles you and shoots you dead

there was NO reason to stop and question those boys.....

and there is no report on my tv or radio or in print that the cop has any injuries....you either made it up or are parroting an unchecked source

if not...post the link

 

Hey rolling. Just wanted to note rhat last night both cnn and msnbc were reporting that the cops are claiming what vance said about hosp and injuries. But eyewitnesses are also stating that is not what they saw happen at all.

 

rolling you have no clue why the cop wanted to talk to the 2 guys, it is within the rights of the police to stop and ask someone some questions of they think it is warranted. Maybe the area is a known drug area, maybe the 2 guys were wearing gang affliated colors?

http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Chief-Officer-in-fatal-shooting-suffered-facial-injuries-271079471.html

http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-police-chief-says-officer-involved-shooting-was-injured-264511

There are 2 links tough guy.

 

http://youtu.be/Y-HkNxxLvSA

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These files compiled in this video contains audio of St. Louis police dispatch from the date of August 9th 2014, the day Mike Brown was murdered by a Ferguson PD officer. We have released these tapes to the public so as they are able to get a sense of the atmosphere the moments before and the hours after Mike Brown was shot.

Incident begins at around noon..(9:08 time stamp)

ST. LOUIS COUNTY POLICE DISPATCH AUDIO TAPES, AUGUST 9TH 2014 11:05 AM - 6:05 PM, INCIDENT IS REPORTED AS "CROWD CONTROL PROBLEM" AT 12:05PM, NO SHOOTING MENTIONED UNTIL IT IS CALLED IN TO DISPATCH BY WITNESS. FERGUSON PD DENIES IT KNEW ANYTHING AT THAT TIME. NO EMS WAS CALLED.

EXCERPTS:

9:35: "Ferguson is asking for assistance with crowd control . . ."

10:58: "Now they have a large group gathering there, she doesn't know any further. . ."

11:20: "We just got another call stating it was an officer-involved shooting . . ."

11:30: "Be advised, this information came from the news . . ."

11:55: "We're just getting information from the news and we just called Ferguson back again and they don't know anything about it . . ."

20:00: ". . .destruction of property . . ."

21:55: "They are requesting more cars. Do you want me to send more of your cars?"

43:55: "Attention all cars, be advised that in reference to the call 2947 Canfield Drive, we are switching over to the riot channel at this time . . ."

 

thanks at.....I still havnt heard a word on public radio about any injuries...

vance....those coppers profiled those 2 kids....

.if there was a reason to stop them we would have heard about it........

no matter though....people are allowed to walk down the street in known drug areas

because that's where they live....


.popo will be charged on this....I guarantee it


and msnbc is not reputable...they are the fodder of comedians

 

Yes people are free to walk down the street but if you are in a known drug area where the known dealers are black then the police have a reasonable suspision to stop you. Not saying that is what happened because WE don't know what happened.

Love the old slang you use...popo, coppers...it is 2014.

 

You really should look at the brief video in the link that shows photos of the police in Ferguson, Mo. The weapons and gear used against the people are labeled in the photos/video.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-state-officials-take-sweeping-steps-in-response-to-ferguson-mo-unrest/2014/08/14/7c9c6de0-23f8-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

 

Thanks for the links Vance. That info had not been carried here by local media as of my post time. As to the stop due to it being a known drug area, all the more reason for localized patrols so that the officers are aware who's who in their patrol area.

 

What?

If you are in a known drug area and you are black then police have a reasonable suspicion to stop you?

That's racial profiling.

 

No that is called common sense. Just as if a white guy was in the area then you have a reasonable suspision to stop him/her.

What does it matter what weapons the police had? A small riot was going on and they were not shooting anyone, they need to show force in order to try to stop people from looting and rioting.

The officers name has been released and now him and his family are in jeopardy.

 

What's been taking place in Ferguson is unnecessary police force.

It sounds as if you'd feel fine living under Marshall Law.