Spitting on Vietnam Soldiers

Get over it people... yes, people spat on soldiers because they didn't agree with their killing. GET OVER IT. If you vets are so tough, deal with it. Go shoot some commies to get it off your chest. What you did to innocent people was far worse than a little spit. GET OVER IT and stop whining.

 

So it's ok for John Lennon to be all angry and a jerk at a point in his life but still come out a hero... but not ok for anyone else speaking in this thread. Not that John killed anyone, just the same, people change and have regrets.

 

She's only 19. Hopefully she'll change and have regrets over being so damn holier-than-thou opinionated and realize that spitting on Vietnam vets was wrong, period.

 

I didn't see anybody asking for the poster to be censored. I believe Newo was just disagreeing with her point of view and hoping that it might change with age.

By the way, from the parts I've highlighted in your rant, which one did you actually mean to say?

 

If what I said was a condemnation, it was a pretty weak one. XBloodyNailPolishX, feel free to PM me.

I don't know where you get the idea that I'm trying to curtail anyone's speech when I'm simply exercising my own freedom of speech.

Funny, that's a point I've helped to make from the beginning. It's probably the biggest reason it's wrong to condemn the soldiers themselves, with the exception of those who committed war crimes such as rape or deliberately killing unarmed civilians. Yes there were American soldiers who did such things, My Lai wasn't a unique occurence, but with 500,000 of them having served there (is that figure near accurate?) they had to be a small minority. Don't try to tell me they represent the average 'Nam veteran.

 

Exactly. Did John kill? no. He was against exactly what these vets were doing... killing.

 

Wow... so age is the end-all indicator for maturity and greatness?
I never said it was ok. I said its not surprising and not a big deal.

 

thank you!

 

Even if you did object to the soldiers coming back from Vietnam, what exactly could even be achieved by spitting on them (other than potentially getting your ass kicked)?

 

Oh yes, because ass kicking is the American way, isn't it? nevermind intelligent talking. Shoot or beat up whatever bothers you.

 

Um I thought you guys agreed to disagree like a few pages back.

 

Or spit on it?

 

What's accomplished is making the anti-war movement look like a bunch of jackasses.

I'm a peace-loving man but if someone spits on me I'm not going to say, "Why did you do that?", I'm going to punch him (or slap her). If turning the other cheek makes you feel so damn self-assured, feel free. After all, only a jerk would think it makes you a doormat, right?

Then there are a lot of jerks in the world. The reality is that if you let one person dump on you, then two dump on you, then three, etc. Most people are good and you have no reason to worry about them, but still, some people need to realize that messing with you is a bad idea. It's not the American way it's the way of the world.

 

I agree with you about the pointlessness of the Vietnam war. In fact, I am and always have been a vociferous anti-war supporter. I also agree with you about soldiers being used as pawns and I personally cannot understand anybody who willingly enters the armed forces; but each to his own I guess.

However, if you say that the soldiers were righteous in their joining of the army in WW2 to protect America, surely the same courtesy should be extended to those who joined before Vietnam and subsequently were sent there. Surely, these poor souls did not think that they would be invading a small Asian country when they signed up. And what about the thousnads who were drafted? Did they deserve to be spat at?

If you read maybe the last 10 or so pages, you will see why newo may hope that BNP grows up a little. One of her opinions, which she appears to have conveniently forgotten to explain when questioned, was that it was hypocritical of any ex-servicemen to wish for peace. Now, she may be entitled to that ridiculous opinion under the precept of free speech, but that also entitles other people to hope that her judgemental ways may change over time.

Peace.

 

Whew. Budbufford, it seems like you just don't get what I and others are trying to say, then you act on your misinterpretation and go off half-cocked. Please take a little extra time to try to see the actual point someone is trying to make.

Many of my views have changed over the years, but I've never been of the view that the soldiers were to blame for Vietnam.

Absolutely. And when you exercise that fundamental right, be prepared to receive a counterpoint.

I seriously doubt telling someone it's wrong to spit on Vietnam vets will lead us into another version of Nazi Germany.

Gosh, and to think I actually protested the Vietnam war! All that time I was my own enemy!

The question wasn't what was accomplished by the Vietnam war, the question was what was accomplished by spitting on Vietnam vets!

Freedom of Speech: please use it wisely.

 

wow!! has it only been 3 yrs for this thread? geezz xblood wasnt even born by the time the war ended!! you all need a new hobby! try going outside once in a while! make a freind? help a homless person? who just might be a vet? hear his story learn about his regrets? or stay in this thread and contiue to spit on pepole? as bloody sayes get over it would be best for everyone!!! or maybe just learn to grow the fuck up?

 

fro m waht i read it was either kill or be killed.

 

meh, lets smoke a bowl.

 

How was the baby shot in the rice paddy in the above picture about to kill anyone?

 

I don't see anyone in this thread acknowledging that they in fact, spat on any returning Vietnam vet. If I missed it, kindly re-post it.

From what I gather, according to Skip's post, it was actually the pro-military war mongerers who actually did the spitting.

Perhaps, you should personally bring this matter to the attention of those individuals involved themselves as you seem to have a hang-up, have trouble getting over this issue, regarding the spitting thing.

It's funny you seem to be very much offended and show such animosity toward the alleged act of spitting on soldiers, and yet, you didn't have the balls to be a soldier during the Vietnam war yourself.

Oh yeah, you were anti-war, gotcha!!
Nice excuse.


The individuals who did the spitting are probably not even in this forum.
Go find them.

I suggest, instead of spitting on politicians, soldiers, generals who return after participating in immoral, illegal wars, they go directly to jail.