Spitting on Vietnam Soldiers

redyelruc, isn't it clear. No one can change and grow, there is nothing to be learned from any experience, and nothing to be shared.

Wb, if it weren't for war there could be no peace.

 

I love you too silverhippy as a fellow hippy and fellow human being...but you are jumping to conclusion, please tell me where I have ever said I wanted you, or anyone for that matter, dead. Exactly

And redyelruc, you're also jumping to conclusions. An ex-soldier can wish for peace as much as anyone else, as long as he knows that war is wrong and should not be fought and that they feel sorry for killing.

Grrr everyone's getting so ignorant..

Peace can happen when we all work together

 

I don't understand how I'm jumping to conclusions. Please explain.

As for the requirements you place on people before they are allowed to wish for peace, give me a break. What gives you the right to put conditions on what people can and can't wish for?

 

So all this is merely because he fought in the WRONG war??? Are you for real? People in WWII killed civilians ON PURPOSE! Urban centers were targets. Ever hear of "strategic bombing"? You can't pick and choose which soldiers are evil for killing innocents.

PS) More refugees were created in the few years after the vietnam war then were created during the three decades of constant warfare. Maybe the communists were worth fighting?

 

What the hell is wrong with you, I have said over and over again that war sucks and that I wanted nothing to do with it. Can you read ? If so try looking back and you will see that. And no Mcwar is not on my list I will vote for Ron Paul. War happy Vets, Jeeez you need to check yourself out. I don't see any war happy vets on this thread.

Peace

 

What the hell happened. I thought you were going to call I waited all night. I know you love me, why else would you keep quoting me. Come on take me on, you will like me. I can tell you stories and like walk around in my uniform. If you are good I will let you touch my medals you will like that. I will tell you just how I got each one. The perfect killing machine, see you think I am perfect. Not to let you down but I am not, sometimes I missed so I was not perfect. But not to worry even if I missed I scared the piss out of them so they would run away just like you would, because you have no spine. You really should have been in the service, they would have seen right off what you were good for. You would have been a house mouse, you would clean up after me and wash my clothes cook for me. And just make sure I was happy. You would have been great at it. Soooo are you going to call me or what I am waiting.

PEACE

 

I am good at my job.
Smart bombs hit what they are aimed at because I am good at my job.
Spit on me and see if I shrug it off.
I have seen video of the death I cause.
I am not immune.
But I am still good at my job.

 

There wbld some one else you can fall for. I hope you don't throw me over for him or her. That would hurt me. But he or she is good at their job and he or she even gets to see video of what they did. Damn wish I had that. It would go good with popcorn and beer. All I ever got to see after I was done was throbbing meat. The left overs of my wrath don't you know.

PEACE

 

Okay you're not jumping to conclusions from what I remember, my mistake.

And those are not requirements they are simply things that should be considered and if gone against makes you a hypocrite.

 

*yawn* at this point this thread bores me. Both sides' opinions and arguments have been established and understand. I know it might sound odd for of all people me to be saying this, but both sides are right in their own way, and each one refuses to budge, and really, neither side shouldn't. Inevitably it all comes down to each individuals' own personal opinions, philosophy, and personal beliefs. In the end, no one is right, no one is wrong. Just different sides. *yawn* yes I am a bit baked at the moment...

 

yawn.. That a coincidence. When I hit the thread I was yawning. Then seen what you said.. "yawn".. is right..

 

I would have to agree it is getting old, the same arguments are being thrown at either end.

We all need a new controvertial thing to argue about :tonguejust kidding)

 

Getting old? It's been old for quite awhile. If you follow this thread from its beginning three years ago you'll find that it's been rehashed over and over. The member names have changed but the argument has stayed the same. Was spitting on Vietnam Vets justified, or at least understandable? Should Vietnam vets be ashamed for having served?

I've made my position clear on this and don't want to restate it. It's just that this thread seems to be a microcosm representing the nation at large. We pulled out of Vietnam 35 years ago and yet we still have issues with that war. Why can't we put it behind us? Could it be that we're supposed to be the good guys and Vietnam belied that conception?

 

You know who was a hero?

John Lennon.

 

Mohandas Gandhi as well

 

Agreed. An Awesome man, Mohatma Gandhi.

 

Thank you for telling us that. I had thought that stories of Vietnam veterans being spit on were urban legends. I was in the anti-war movement, but I respected military personel then. I do now.

When I was in the anti-war movement I had enormous respect for those in the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. John Kerry was the leader of that organization.

 

????
The Beatles were great, but you should do some reading on John's life beyond his songs. He was a pretty big asshole for a lot of it, ESPECIALLY towards women.

But hey, that's the great thing about stardom isn't it? The truth burrys the myth.

 

I was just watching this show on the History Channel about the 101st Airborne Screaming Eagles. One of Vietnam veterans told of how, soon after the war, he went into a bar in uniform and the patrons bad-mouthed him and yes, spat on him. So yes, it did happen sometimes. Maybe there weren't many documented cases of it, but how often would it be documented? How many people would call the cops because someone spat on them?

 

Actually, I HAVE read quite a bit about him, as well as done a lot of research.
Yes, in his youth he was quite an angry young man. It didn't help that his dad abandoned him and his aunt was a psycho. Cynthia didn't help much either.
it was when he was introduced to Yoko that he mellowed out, opened his mind and became a great artist, musician, and peace activist.