This migh have happen BUT IT WAS EXTREMLY RARE AND NOT EVEN WORTH TO MENTION . IN REALITY IT WOULD TAKE LOTS OF BALLS TO SPIT ON A YOUNG GUY WHO JUST RETURN FROM VIETNAM WITH OUT GET IN YOUR ASS BEAT TO A PULP BY THE VICTIM . "THIS GUYS LIVE THRU MUCH WORSE THEN SALIVA ON THEYR CLOTHE" . TRY BLOOD AND BRAIN SPLATTER OF A CLOSE BY BUDDIE SOLDIER.
argue? tension? in all due respect man i class myself as a hipforumer wether it be uk or any other location " i have met some sound dudes from all over the planet on hipforums ........
You seriously think a police force would be able to more easily bring in the guys who organized 9/11 than what we've done already? We occupied Afganistan and installed a completely new government in it and have yet to catch the people we're after but you make it sound like its a walk in a park to catch these guys. We sent thousands of troops into Afganistan looking for them and yet a simple police force is going to catch them? 2nd bolded text-world police force basically = U.N. How did we retaliate against the wrong guys? As of yet i haven't heard anything about them saying Al Qaeda didn't do it.
Didn't Bin Laden actually admit that he was behind the attack in a video? Also, isn't the International Police the InterPol?
Yeah i guess InterPol would be the international police. But with these kind of people you need military force.
Originally Posted by gate68 "Have you ever been Charles Manson,if not how do you know he was wrong.Have you ever been a pacifist?You're about as one sided as one can get.I don't need to kill babies in order to know that it's wrong." Couldn't have said it better, gate. And as for all the other rather repetative questions and comments, well, I'm not all that into being repetative myself, so perhaps you'll just have to go back and read past posts. And perhaps some alternative media. The stuff the mainstream media doesn't want you to know... You know, even George Bush finally admitted that Iraq had nothing at all to do with 9-11. The Iraq war was in planning stages months before 9-11. (how did they know?) And there have been NO "sleeper cells" of Al Qaeda found in the US at all. And no weapons of mass destruction were ever found. And an awful lot of those videos they have used as evidence have turned out to be fake. And, an awful lot of the supposed hijackers have been discovered alive and well, with their identification stolen. And.... I could go on and on. No one is telling the truth about any of it. Their truth changes like the weather... Whatever the people need to hear to keep them in line. I am beginning to doubt the existance of bin Ladin altogether. So, please don't throw any "official facts" at me to defend your positions. Sort of like a drowning man trying to use a boat with a hole in it to save himself... What we have here seems to be those who are either in or have been in the military making lots of excuses for themselves and their actions. And those who are not at all interested in being in the military, explaining why they don't believe in it... Unfortunately for the military guys, the non military guys have some damn convincing reasoning. Sorry, but I AM a hippy, and the ultimate origin of hippys was in trying to drop out of the system and make a better way to live, WITHOUT war. The military is one very large branch of the system. The entire thing runs on the assumption that what the government does is right. The last time I checked, hippys were pretty anti- government. No surprises here...
Sorry if you mistook be before but im completely against the war in iraq, as for the one in afganistan im ok with because of 9/11.
there's some bad people in L.A.,i say we attack L.A.fuck the innocent.We would never conduct a criminal investigation that way in this country,but it's O.K. to do it in other countries.When you support 1 war you support them all,when you support the bombs you become a baby killer.
Heads up the whole problem is logistics people in the wrong place.http://forums.military.com/eve/forums
So what your saying is going into a country for humanitarian reasons such as Somalia or Darfur is the same as going into Iraq?
When you join for humanitarian reasons knowing full well that you're probably not going to Somalia,Somalia becomes only an excuse.You're gambling with their lives.To say Afganistan is alright because we want revenge and ending up in Iraq,you can't throw your hands up and say you didn't know.
So if I think that our fighting in WWII was justified, that makes me a hipocryte for opposing the war in Vietnam? Gatesy, do you ever let the facts help you to form your opinion, or do you actually prefer pissing in the wind? Here's a thought, when you meet an old vet who helped liberate the Nazi concentration camps, spit on him! He's nothing but a baby killer, right?
Wtf? Gambling with whose lives? Are you talking about the people in Somalia? As if us going in made things worse then they were? How did we get to joining the military anyway, you opened the door to this by saying if you support one war you support them all. By your logic that makes Somalia, Darfur, Iraq, Vietnam, WWII, even the fucking Revolutionary War all equal! Hell why don't we throw in a few crusades for variety. Were all those soldiers baby killers?
if you're part of the war machine,then you're part of the war machine.How did we get to joining the military?Maybe this post is about soldiers?
You wanna generalize all soldiers in the history of time into one catagory? Go right ahead, its a waste of time now to keep debating if your that single minded.
Oh and by the way, have you or any of your family (going back a few generations if you have to) been in the military?
Amazingly enough, I'm from a long line of pacifists. Far as I can determine I have NO ancestors who participated in wars. Wow! It IS possible!