Special K

for clarity ; ketamine is not a horse tranquiliser.

it has been used for vetinary purposes, but also as a paediatric anasthetic ( babies are not considered to be prone to hallucination for some reason ). It is also used at times in emergency situations such as road traffic accidents, where workers need to anaesthetise the patient but still need to communicate with them etc.

so the various misled rumours about its origins are no reason for not taking it.

what IS a good reason for not taking it is that you would be lining up with all the loser shitheads who already do. you might want to be fussy about which clubs you join.

 

That's because a baby's whole life is one glorious "hallucination". There's a reason why people don't remember anything before a certain age, and imo it's the same reason why it's hard to remember everything about an intense acid trip, or a dream.

 

good point

 

iv had negative long term dissosiation from dissociatives, both pcp and dxm.
would K do the same?
dissociation has gotta be the worst thing in the world, fuck dissociattivs.

 

Would K do the same? Sure, and it would probably make your situation worse.

Babies are not considered prone to hallucination because they can't complain about it. The reason they stopped using it as an anesthetic is because people complained about the odd side effects it produced (which, apparently some of us would NOT have complained about...like when you go to get your wisdom teeth out and they "warn" you about the "side effects" you might feel, when some of us just think "damn, I'm about to get HIIIIIIIGH")

It's a disassociative psychedelic. Psychedelic means "mind manifesting" and disassociate means to part; cease or break association with, so no, it will not make you "halusiate."

You don't remember anything before a certain age because you don't necessarily percieve everything to begin with, and because the memory section of your brain is still figuring out how it works itself. You don't remember parts of an intense acid trip because there is no "you" to remember it. That's why the guy who explained what a thumprint was couldn't talk about any of the visuals he saw, and could really only talk about the first hour, and the aftermath. The two are similarly related, but they are not the same thing. You typically don't remember dreams because they are not put into memory in the first place...they are not "rehearsed" as events in your daily life are. This is all basic psychology shit, nothing special.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm_health2.shtml

 

i force myself to forget my dreams by the 2nd hour of waking up because i find i keep thinking about them all day as if they were real.

 

i find it INCREDIBLY difficult to remember dreams. I might get a dream that i can remember once or twice a year, if that.....

 

Do you smoke pot?

 

not regularly anymore no - i used to

 

O ok, when I stopped I suddenly had lots of dreams I could remember.

 

^ Yeah I feel that. Except I just need to be sober to remember dreams. If I get stoned and fall asleep stoned, I aint gonna dream at all(or even remember if I did dream). But if I wake up in the morn, then just go straight back to sleep, I'll dream, & remember them. Usually only until a couple hours later & by that time I've completely forgotten.

 

i usually (when i can get some) smoke weed at minimum 1x a day, and i still get very vivid dreams that i remember in near to perfect detail. then again, i've never suffered from memory problems associated with smoking weed. i've known people that smoked the same as i did, and you'd tell them something and within 5 minutes they'd forget it, you'd setup a time to get together and they'd forget, and they could never remember anything! unfortunately, i remember EVERYTHING, in minute detail sometimes. I wish sometimes that my memory did get messed up a tiny bit so I wouldn't remember quite so much.

I know this doesn't really go along with the thread, but I have to ask cause of the disassociative aspect ... has anyone reading this ever been on any anti-depressants that make you feel detached from reality? i've never experienced that, but my husband says frequently that he feels he doesn't know what is real and what is not at times, and he's never done ANYTHING, hasn't even ever had 1 puff of weed and never drank; but he's been on SSRI's and clonazepam for about 2 1/2 years now. So, when I read the posts about people feeling really disassociative it just made me wonder about that.

Any thoughts?

 

Maybe this feeling of detachment is just part of his anxiety? Or is it not anxiety, I dont know. Does it seem to worry him??? Depersonalization isnt so uncommon among people with anxiety disorders...Is he depressed or is it more the anixety?

Maybe clonazepam is messin with him I wouldnt know.

 

he can be very depressed at times. but the feeling of depersonlization doesn't happen all the time, just occasionally. when it does it really bothers and worries him. it was really bad at one point, but at that time he had been on olanzapine, and when that one occurred he got so confused he almost decided he wanted to break up, but there was still a part of him that knew he didn't want to do that.

and i'd say it's about 50/50 as to what he suffers from most.

i know it's not quite the forum for it, but figured i'd throw it out there and see if maybe someone has experienced the same thing

 

I think he should go see his doctor


They will prob know right away what this is.