some datura questions.

writer man where do you get all these cool pictures?

 

I wonder, how did this play out?

 

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i don't think the spirit of this plant is evil it's just from a very very dark place. a darkness so utterly vast and so complete that it's beautiful.

the legend of it's creation goes something like this:

"When the world was young there lived in the dark underworld a boy and girl. They searched for the light and found a path to the world above. They emerged with lovely wreathes of white flowers upon their heads, this was the first Datura. This plant they gave to mankind. It made them sleep and have powerful dreams, it let them see spirits. When the gods saw this they became worried that man was not yet ready for such visions. They sent the boy and girl back to the world of darkness. But at the place where they descended they left the white flower wreathes. These began to grow in the high desert where men could find them again when they were ready to use its power . Some say that where the Datura grows there is an entrance to the underworld."





this is a clay bowl found at a site where there were hundreds of people living, and worshipping in this datura cult. they were a very fierce and warlike people and the Gods they worshipped were of blood and destruction.
the datura-mans body is stylized like the spiky seed pods. his face looks...eh...not pleasant.



another rock art image with a datura motif. note the spiky datura seed pod-like object the shaman is holding. lots of horned spirits, spirits with antennae surround him.

 

that's really cool stuff man, thanks for posting that.

datura is so haunting. i posted a while back about how, even with the tea brewing (i never drank it, my friend did but thankfully nothing happened) i swear that there was a really heavy, mystical presence in the room. it was very inviting.

it's absolutely fascinating stuff, really.

 

This stuff is calling my name
I want to expeirience it's full affects
it's a very interesting drug

 

Try abusing Benedryl or Dramamine first before you decide to move onto this, I'm sure the effects are quite similar.

 

Yeah I have done both
I see how you can think they are similer
hells bells and nightmare pills

 

Honestly, I think you're crazy to want to even think of persuing such a drug experience, although to some people 'crazy' might be a compliment. good luck

 

i don't disagree, it's one of the most interesting things i've ever come across.

but you really want to risk that? there's a good chance you'll never be the same.

 

In what ways?

 

this thread comes to mind: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=315835&highlight=datura&f=116

that's not the only time i've heard someone say they haven't felt the same since.

obviously that might not be the case.

but you're venturing into very powerful territory. it's not a light decision by any means.

 

Yeah i have always been fascinated and i have read all the reports they're amazing.

 

This.
Its safer since you can measure the dosage but on datura plants it takes only one seed to od and die on when a plant right next to it could take up to 100 seeds.

 

for starters it can kill you. and not just in one way.

ask yourself... do you really understand the implication of the words 'toxic delerient'?

i don't really think this is a trip worth dying for. especially considering what reality you might get stuck in before you leave this world.

what disturbs me the most and what ultimately will keep me from trying a full dose of datura, is the fact that the experience is seamless. no colors, no ego death. there is no point of reference from where this reality ends and the datura delerium begins. it's like a waking dream. fully immersed in that plant's world. if you play with it, nothing good can result. this is serious shit.

 

Yeah I've smoke alot of it from seeds to leaves to flowers it's just a wierd high I want to try it to it's full extent but yeah I don't want to die

 

Ok nut is benadril and dramamin are just like it can't you get stuck in one of thosse realities?

 

one seed probably wont kill you. i eat two or three seeds to combat nausea from mescaline. it's great in homeopathic doses of around the same 1-5 seeds. gives great lucid dreams. anymore than that i would not fuck with.

 

Yeah but what about my second question if benadryl and Dramamine are just like it shy can't you get stuck in those realities?

 

people don't report the same permanent effects with benadryl dramamamine trips, like they do datura. i wouldn't try to trip off of any of them. not worth it IMO.

 

I've done it before(benadryl) numerous times they are nightmare pills the high sound almost the same