Socialism Is The Future

^that's how insurance works, healthy people still pay for the sick. the only difference between single payer and insurance is with single payer the government acts as the payer rather than a private company, and it is a non profit system so it is much more cost effective. But people would rather bite off their nose to spite their elbow in the US when it comes to single payer just because it has that nasty word "socialism" attached to it

I think socialism is a bit of a misnomer when it comes to healthcare anyways, there are only a couple of countries in the world that have government run healthcare systems. Most systems are privately ran but paid for with public funding

Edit :My arrow ^ was meant for asmo's post in reference to tumbling dice

I hate the whole "nothing is free" argument. Pretty sure every proponent of single payer healthcare understands it isnt free. But it is more cost efficient than what we already have

 

I think socialism works. It will be socialism that saves our oceans...if done quickly enough. The oceans have dead zones where nothing can live...at all. These dead zones have no oxygen left at all, and sometimes excessive dioxin type poisons. There are also large garbage floats in each ocean. These are in several cases as large as the state of Texas. We need urgent action to clean up the oceans and the world's capitalists seem not interested in doing their share. The capitalists act as if they are only interested in money. Consequently, we need strong socialist leaders to save our oceans and national shorelines. Just a few days ago Trump and Company opened up all American shores to the oil companies. We need strong socialist leaders to resist this abusive behavior.

 

You're thinking too much in sides imo. Not all capitalists want to milk nature until it dies. You sometimes sound like they do. 'They'...
Socialism = good. Capitalism = bad. Uhm, does not sound that constructive to me.

 

Those that "have"are afraid if ANYTHING becomes socialistic---and works---people will look around to see what ELSE might be more efficient than otherwise. I proposed nationalizing the oil companies some years ago, in order to put the monies therefrom into the national treasury for the benefit of all. Everyone that did the ACTUAL WORK would have kept their jobs, but no huge bonuses for anyone and no stockholders. Never happen of course. "most everyone" has the big time idea of striking it rich and living the high life. Doesn't matter that people are starving and cold and homeless right here. Gin up that plastic, ignore the likely consequences down the line when scarcity and depletion begin to affect society ---THAT IS -when the $$$$$ class is affected, THEN maybe--just maybe , the world , its people and resources will be appreciated for what what we had. What other possible conclusion can be made unless the old ways of the industrial revolution can be curbed? Anyway, don't forget to: BUY MORE. BUY MORE NOW.

 

It's always funny to me when people use that word. You don't agree with me so it's a mental problem. You can out debate them all you want and to them it's dismissed by rolling the eyes and saying "liberalism truly is a mental disorder". An actual book title written by a Conservative and a popular phrase among them.

Genetically speaking being "liberal" is more evolved. While Conservatives are rooted in more primal self survival. It's why hate things like welfare. It's why they fear socialism. Fuck you I got myself to take care of. In a way they lack the ability to think of anyone else like a tiger can't think of anyone else. It does not mean they are less intelligent necessarily. But there are studies like this one.

Why Liberals and Atheists are More Intelligent

 

trust me none of you americans would like to have socialism. i come from a socialist country and i travel to california a lot. thats like 2 opposite ends. Imagine the government interfering into how your car should look like, what certain people should wear, how you should behave as a tendant etc. you wouldnt like it. I am sure we would do a much greater job without any form of government. Something like anarchy would be the best solution. Some people think if anarchy did exist people would do whatever the heck they wanted, kill, rape, plunder, murder lol but thats not true. in fact the opposite would happen. peace and love.

 

ANARCHY is the way to go. No government needed to rule over our heads

 

Socialism can go many ways. They are happy in Norway with the kind of "socialism" I am talking about. Americans however might accept all those changes before the let the goverment take their guns regardless of the name of the goverment. As appealing as anarchy might sound beyond small groups it does not work. A larger society needs some sort of infrastructure and rules.

North Korea calls it self the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. Are they democratic like the US is democratic?

 

i dont know about north korea,

i know americans and they are way too free spirits to bow down to regulations of the government which would be the scenario if socialism ruled . I love how americans in california drive their car in whatever shape,color,way they want. That really shows their freedom. Here in europe we got so many regulations by the government. They dont even allow us to put those blue lights under the car, or spinning wheels or jumping cars, or loud speakers etc etc. would you like that? thinkabourit. in some professions it is even dictated how and what clothing they should wear , no beard allowed etc (taxi drivers,teachers...) lol i cant even believe it myself sometimes hahaha

 

I would like socialized oil & gas. I would like socialized medical care. I would like socialized education all the way up to PHD level. I would like socialized housing and food and transportation etc....

 

Conservatism happens when Trump loves the under educated voter.

 

Ame

America has more laws than your country. The government here does have a lot to say about your car. The government will come and arrest a tenant for many reasons.

 

then why everytime i travel to los angeles i see cars on the freeway which would have been ilegal in my country???

 

I dont really view the car culture in America as a good thing

We have civilian trucks that are designed to look like minature 18 wheelers. They arent common but they exist. What the fuck do we need those for? Lol

But I dont really view the tighter regulations in cars in Europe as a result of socialism. The term is a little overused, it would apply if the government owned the means of automobile production but car companies are still privatized. The regulations are due to environmental concerns which America doesn't seem very concerned about despite daily smog in LA and other cities

American cars are obnoxious as fuck, environmental concerns aside. I think it would be nice to live somewhere that isnt clogged with giant SUVs, I can't stand them and most people have no purpose for them, they just want them because they feel entitled to them

 

what i meant was socialism= interference into private life. you cant have it without that. if you want socialism in your country then better be prepared for goverments interference,

and what i meant with the cars was not the environmental concern but what they call "traffic safety" . for example in los angeles i see cars driving on the freeway that would be classified as "wracks" here, damaged, sometimes even 1 window missing (taped up) . In a socialist country you cant drive a car that has a little damage , they call it "traffic hazard" , you need to go to the service and repair your car. there is many other disadvantage in socialism: TAXES everywhere, birocracy. To make it simple some examples: If you buy a car here you need to wait many weeks before you can drive it, paying lots of fees to different insititutions, you dont have the freedom to not pay for social security you MUST pay social security, if you want to open a business you need to pay lots of taxes to the government, just everything is slower for example driver license takes 6 weeks minimum and costs over 1000 euros because of all the different taxes and exams you need to do. in the us driver license takes a few days and - when i did it - cost me 50 bucks. socialism is not good for diligent people because the more you work the more taxes you pay to the government, imagine 50% of your monthly income going to the government for nothing, then you will start looking for ilegal ways round - and THIS IS exactly what they are doing. This is the reason why the government of greece is about to collapse,, most people here that are hard working, diligent look for "other ways round" to not pay all these taxes to the govt which is understandable to me. socialism is just a failure. its not as bad as communism. but close

 

The way your car is allowed to look or run is a really, really bad example of why socialism might be unfavorable. Like hilariously bad.

 

I have a grouping of cars/trucks that I refer to as "asshole mobiles."

You just look at them and know the driver is an asshole.

 

With a small penis

 

You're welcome to all my free shit.