Socialism Is The Future

pure capitalism is garbage. pure unchecked fanatical socialism is also trash.


the best thing is a balance between the two, slightly leaning more towards socialism or social ideals - because, well, we do live in a society after all.

 

an overly simplified cliche

 

It may be true, in my case, that I could earn a higher wage. I could literally do anything I set my mind to. I just have no motivation to do so. I don't desire what other people desire. And I don't deserve to be punished for that. Other people literally have no choice but to make $7.65 an hour. They can't and/or don't desire to do anything else. Yet their positions are vital to the businesses that hire them. It makes no sense, by any stretch of the imagination, that they aren't making a living doing what they're doing. The ONLY reason they're not is due to other people being CHEAP.

 

So the reason you live in the poor neighborhood you do is your own fault? You are too lazy or stupid to not live in a ghetto? Just repeating what you have said. It's a place of criminals and people who don't work yet you are also there.

Consider that as a small example of what socialism could do. Those around you and yourself might have access to more options. Norway has ghettos too but not what you describe.

 

My guess is that you never lived in a socialist country to be able to talk about accurately. I did and believe it or not, it is not something you want.

 

What country would that be? I'm sure lots of English, Norwegian, or Canadians would all say they like their country.

They are socialist in the way I am talking about. I kind of think you are full of shit., You did not live these places and if you did you are in the minority taking issue with their tax systems and what they pay for.

 

I lived 40years in France, my friend, had a company there and 35 employees, so, you won't teach me anything about Socialism.

 

Probably not

But you did read what I wrote and if you got sick in France you would not go bankrupt. So in those ways socialism works.

 

Where's the beef?

 

socialism is a failure.

 

All of civilization is about to go belly up! Its empire baby, and this train ain't stopping until she derails!

 

Socialism never even had a chance to succeed. But we are socialists, because we are Americans. We look out for every man, woman, and child in this great nation, because it's the right thing to do. We are an American nation, a family, and family takes care of each other. Socialism, socialism, socialism!

 

Russia was a very important example for the 1%.

They were afraid at the dawn of the 20th century. What if people follow though with this? They can not stop it.

The USSR was their poster child for its failure. They can say "don't hate us we will help you get rich too". We can't do anything but accept the system as is since ANY change means the USSR automatically of course. Even if Capitalism also has poverty and exploitation USSR!

 

Where I live only 30% of people are capitalist ( NOTE people who claim to be capitalist but are unemployed DO NOT COUNT).

I have a JOB so I guess im a Capitalist But I would never Vote Trump (Because I am not eligable to vote in the USA cos i dont live there)

 

You work in Socialism too. Europeans long ago got past our American fear of it. I'm not in favor of true Marxism. I see that as a goal for future societies that is possible only if people evolve. It's something that we will examine when we no longer need to work so hard to live. We will go from cave men to capitalist to evolved.

None of the countries I admire are Marxist. To Americans that term is used for anything that is not our capitalism and most don't understand it. Right now capitalism and money have a place not just the place Americans place on it where for example even our health and education is for sale.

We can not go the hospital without owning tens maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars. A pack of bandages I can buy for $5 at a shop was $500 each for me when I went to a ER. I was billed for the supplies and nurses time. She spent literally 20 seconds applying it. I also had to fight with my good health insurance to even admit I needed an ER. Americans always say just use the free market and find "good" insurance. The free market means none of it has to be good also. I work in a college educated field that in general has good income and respect. If I don't have good insurance most Americans don't either. Mine paid and most never will. We all have to fight them.

Examples like this are why I support socialism in some areas. With Capitalism you will always change as much as you can as long as you can.

 

Just making your post more concise... This is the only reason you posted in the first place.

 

A capalist is Simply someone who has a JOB

Where I Live (The UK) is a Capalist Country and we do NOT pay for our HealthCare.

 

And if I'm not mistaken when the NHS was founded you had politicians who said you would become the USSR and poverty would overwhelm the country. Sounds so familiar to me as an American. Blows my mind I could simply walk into a hospital and get medical treatment. Some here think you can do that here. Sure, on a certain moral level a hospital will not let you die but they don't give you top care like if you are a millionaire. Doctors want to save lives but a hospital is a bossiness here and the doctor needs to show the business is successful. My mom is a nurse so she knows all the drama well when ethics clash with money.

 

They may have said that but that Scaremongering. I agree the Trump needs to do something to make hospitals cheap (Hopefully free) but that is something most capitalists would do.

 

Doctors/surgeons are on extremes amount of money though. Maybe when doctors and surgeons are willing to work for something like 10% of their wage, and stop carrying out privately-funded surgeries for things like sex changes, breast enhancements, bum lifts, lip injections and other similar body changes, then and only then should we be able to bring "morals" to the discussion - while billions of people around the world are suffering and dying of far worse health issues.

These days the UK's "free" health service truly is in an absolute and proper peril compared to what it used to be.
So actually as you say, those politicians who thought the NHS would become the USSR and overwhelm the country... are actually not far off correct nowadays - with potentially Brexit being a catalyst of the Britons being fed up that contributed to the cause of Brexit in the first place.

By the way, the NHS isn't free. Its funded by every officially employed Briton with a National Insurance code, and additionally propped up by funds from other taxes as seen fit to use by the government.