Socialism is like life in a pandemic

for politics there is one human nature. The regular people like you and I are of a different nature and goes through it. Has compassion and just wants to be content. Not hurt others. All politicians have an interest. First to win, how they can do it, how to silence the people is the method under socialism, it is mostly the government who benefits as the people all struggle.

 

Mmmmm - this one !!!

 

Not all politicians are useless people looking for a way out, but many are.

 

Sure, not all, please point me to one who has not financially benefitted?

Under socialism the party is the richest one, rather than a distribution. The people become dependant on the government for their survival. They don’t come out content or happy, just silenced.

Socialism throughout history, has failed and has disregarded the failure and pushed it aside with, but that’s not what we mean! As if they dreamed yet again at the expense of the people and the people became slaves, socialism thought out history has used the excuse of, “but that’s not what we mean!” As if the dream, time and time again didnt come to fruition, but the dream continues.

Socialist all over the world praised and rejoiced in Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. Finally, maybe this time socialism will find success. “This is what we mean!” They said. 15 years later with the country now a total chaos the socialist dreamers now says, But that’s NOT what we mean!

bernie sanders used Scandinavia as an example of a socialism economy. that’s what we mean! It isn’t, Denmark is a market economy, plus they are not as successful as you are led to believe.

in socialism, time and time again, it has been socialism until it fails again, then the finger pointing begins and the words, that is not what we mean is recited as the market crumbles and the world you live in falls apart for everyone. Those who knew it would not work are selfish people, perhaps racist is accused too.

Denmark has a measure of success because of capitalist policies, but not as successful as you are led to believe, same with Scandinavia. Do you think people there are happy or even content? Also remember that Denmark doesn’t have an official minimum wage, Take away capitalism and it fails like.Venezuela who were full on socialism.

and what happened in the uk with socialist leaders who claimed innocents and blamed thatcher for trying to fix up the mess left behind. But that’s not what they mean either. Not their fault.

 

To add, cost of living is high too.

 

So, basically, the problem is with universal healthcare, though. That would mean we're socialist?

 

Apparently....

 

no, it means socialism fails when it is pure socialism. Republicans, well not me and not many I know are NOT against assistance for those who need it, what they are against is a socialist government that puts a gun to their heads and forces them to fall in line. If it is socialism it isn’t voluntary. 20 trillion dollars in debt and the government hasn't spent enough yet. Just create funds out of thin air. It is a pipe dream and I have come to realize it isn’t attainable, like opium it is a dream world that doesn’t exist, if it is liberal socialism then you end up with a government controlling and abusing the people who just want to survive and the socialist leaders get wealthy and everyone else is trying to keep their head above water. Jan-end of August, everything you makes and work for goes to the government. You have to try and budget the rest.

So as you struggle under the weight of taxes, extreme taxes on everything, hidden taxes, ones that you are forced to pay whether you can afford or not. You can’t look into alternative healthcare plans but have to pay the government for theirs, which is not covering necessary things, you have to pay into a private health care as well in order to ensure proper care, you live pay to pay like everyone else. Have to pay into Canada pension as well that leaves you living below the poverty line. Drugs you have to pay for. It simply makes the government rich and the people poor, as interest rates rise and cost of living rises, the socialists increase taxes.

Socialist parties do not work with the opposition, they work with other socialist parties. Socialism center becomes in reality the far left, not Center but they say they are Center, progressive conservatives try to balance the books. Socialists say, the budget will balance itself.

 

Okay.... Somebody remind me... Which country is it that wants to become a totally socialist country?

I'm pretty sure I didn't get the memo about that.

 

Beware of the iron fist under the guise of socialist. As I said, you can read what Pierre Trudeau did, and not one of the many books that he paid to have written with a fake history, and you will see Obama, which has been the destruction of Canada and created a huge divide. The middle become poor but called middle class still. The socialists line their own pockets.

 

Yeah... That doesn't answer my question

 

Like I mentioned above to Vlad. The lab-lib pact. The center goes far left and calls themselves center. Then point the finger at center right and calls it far right, when it is not. The budget won’t balance itself.

 

you never asked me a question. *shrug*. Trying to be smart? Not successful. This thread is about why socialism sucks, not about you and “who said they want socialism?” If you dont want it, why defend it?

 

Fascism sucks, too.

 

after the death of Lenin, Stalin took over and was far left. What do you think of him? Was he a socialist? A Fascist? What? What would you call it?

 

I asked a question... You posted some random bullshit about iron fists.

Now you say this thread is "not about me"... When did I say it was?

And, who's "defending it"? ("it", meaning socialism, in case you get confused again)


You and 6 are going overboard with your "socialism sucks" argument and nobody is actually advocating socialism... So other than your need to argue about stuff, why are you posting about it. (definition of "it" as seen above)

 

A tyrant. Honestly I don't have a comprehensive knowledge of political theory. This thread is all about why socialism is bad, so I don't know why I brought up fascism.

 

no, I asked, what question you asked me. The only question I saw you ask recently was

“Which country is it that wants to become a totally socialist country?“

I have not responded to you in some time, if at all. I was responding to neon. Not you. I have ignored you for some time for the most part.