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This is why I don't get involved. I really like him.

 

It shouldn't really be about whether we like certain people or not. This forum consists of people from right around the globe, it's only obvious there's going to be differences in terms of culture and background which is what makes it special.

This forum is about dreadlocks. If there are differences of opinion over dreadlocks then fine. That's what makes these forums good, there is plenty of different information from people's experiences flying around. Otherwise there shouldn't be any cause for argument. I am sure there are plenty of people who read my posts and think Likewise sometimes I feel the same when I read certain other posts, still it's not really a case for starting up some random rant about somebody. Not that I believe this particular thread was a rant at all....

 

Aaaall the time *heads off to the "Let's all talk about how bad Merrivale smells" forum*

 

I'll take that as a compliment

 

Please. SE is not some helpless victim who is getting attacked for no reason by a bunch of crazy people. Instead of spending time wondering why there are so many assholes on HF ganging up on SE, why not consider that people probably are not being assholes for the sake of being assholes, and are either legitimately offended, fed-up or opinionated. Since when is it a crime to strongly disagree with someone as pig-headed and stubborn as yourself? Why is it always so horrible that members don't agree, debate and argue fairly often? WHY do we all have to "get along"; it doesn't happen like that in the real world, so why would it happen here online?

Well... there is a time and a place to say whatever the hell comes to your mind without any repercussions. SE is choosing to air his "streams of consciousness" in public, on a very large Internet message board. People will have opinions, make them clear as day, and won't hold back. If you have the balls to say whatever the hell you feel like saying without considering what other people may think of what you have to say, then you should have the balls to understand that other people will react to your posts. It's quite simple.

It is also possible to say what is on your mind while still being legible...

 

I wasn't referring to the entire board ganging up on him or being a helpless victim. There is a whole bandwagon that gloats every times SE is mentioned. This threads started out as interesting. I was thoroughly interested in what he meant by his old sig. And when he explained, it made perfect sense to me. And after his one post in the thread people started calling him ignorant and "you should think before you speak" and all kinds of dumb irrelevant shit. If it would have been about anyone else beside SE the responses would have been civil and not negative. That's all I am getting at.

Thanks for pretending you know who and I am by calling me pig-headed and stubborn after stating a single opinion and before I had a chance to defend myself. The definition of stubborn, "refusing to move or change one's opinion; obstinate." Where did I do this? A debate is entirely different than an argument. A debate is not to be taken personally and use critical thinking and facts to back your point. Arguing is pointless. It's petty personal attacks with no real facts to back them up. Tell me how this is remotely productive in this real or internet world. I wouldn't waste my time arguing. No one has to get a long, but everyone should be respectful of others...even those they disagree with. And if you do something just because the rest of world does it, you have a lot of conscious development you need to achieve.

It's also possible to say what is on your mind without degrading people... I am not saying SE does this. It sounds quite hypocritical when you bitch and moan about how you are offended by this or that then in the next sentence offend someone. Hell you and I have never once talked before and your already calling me stubborn and pig-headed. Perhaps it is you that is stubborn and pig-headed.

This point is completely irrelevant. Another petty personal attack on something as mundane as typos... This doesn't say anything about his intelligence only that he is apathetic towards proof reading and getting his thoughts out clearly. No less, that's how he does it and he shouldn't be ridiculed for it. That's same as ridiculing someone for typing 100% grammatically correct sentences. After all this is an informal message board.

EDIT: Thats all there is to say on the matter. Don't respond to this thinking I will respond again. I have said what needs to be said and in my mind proved my point. So I edited this post so you don't waste your time responding like I already did. So take it with a grain of salt or leave it.

 

I would have had the same exact reaction to anyone else essentially saying that they do not think about what they are saying before they post it publicly on a message board. I'm sure most other members here would say the same.

I wrote that badly, because this isn't what I meant. I meant that SE is just as pig-headed and stubborn as myself, which is why the same arguments crop up over and over again. No one is willing to back down (and yes, I know the definition of stubborn). And for the record, disagreeing with someone and challenging their opinions does not equal disrespect.

Who said I was questioning his intelligence based on the way he types? I think it's disrespectful to obviously not give two shits about what you are saying when (1) You say that you don't put much thought into what you are saying, you just say whatever is on your mind and, (2) You don't bother to spell-check your posts (obviously this is about SE, and not you). If he doesn't care enough about what he has to say, and he doesn't care to make his posts legible and understandable, then why should anyone care what he have to say in the first place? I shouldn't have to work twice as hard to try and understand what someone is saying because they are simply too lazy to use spell check. And it's not about minor typos or grammatical errors; I'm not nit-picking. It's the gibberish and truly unrecognizable word-creations that are what everyone is, and has been, complaining about.

 

I think we should all eat some cake. Mmmmm Who wants cake?

 

Mee!!! I have a craving for jaffa cakes but I only have £1 and that won't buy me some

 

Wanna share my Jaffa cake bars??

 

im sry everyone, but rougette pwned this thread.

 

I think people should just stop making threads that are geared towards SE. Fine if you don't like him, or you don't care what he has to say in a thread than take it up then&there. Don't make entire threads just to make fun of someone and get in the same petty arguments. It's all very juvenile.

 

this thread has nothing to do with how i feel about SE... i rather like him. just wanted to give me 2 cents on his sig quote *shrugs* not everything is so black and white..

 

if this is what you do why do you even bother writing? lol

 

Yeh that's what I thought. I mean, I do kinda get what he's saying; I'm not thick... but still it put a different perspective on his "advice" haha

 

Wow. This thread got arseated rather a lot, rather quickly. What is everyones problem? Are we all supposed to hug and kiss and ohm in some sickly, new-agey therapy style way after every disagreement?

Count. Me. Out.

SE says what he says. He has fixed views on dreads (which is what this forum is about, after all), but they are no less fixed than others who frequent this site. I think his views sometimes touch nerves. I think his views sometimes polarize debate. I think the way he puts his views accross can sometimes be a little blunt. I have not always agreed with what he has said, but 90% of the time I can say that I've found the courage of his convictions quite refreshing. Some people can be really wishy-washy, and thankfully he isn't one of them. What a dull place it would be if we all fell into rank behind the strongest voice in here - which at times has been, and is, SE. Deal with it peeps, he aint going away. And why should he?

If he truely posts off the top of his head, does it make his point any less valid than a carefully considered, carefully worded argument? I'm guessing... only if you happen not to agree with him. Conversely, there are others that post here that share his views and hang onto his every word.

I'm not sure I even get the point of this thread. Why are we discussing one single member anyway - and, quite worryingly, at a time when he's obviously not around? Smacks almost of a witch hunt to me.

 

I don't agree with SE on many things and he even got all pissy at me cause I mentioned I lift weights, but I respect his opinion alot more than alot of people on here who just act like sheep and don't develop their own trail of thoughts and gang up on people because he/she disagrees with them

 

who does that?

 

Again. The only problem with SE is when he starts claiming his opinions to be facts and some newb reads it and takes his word at face value. And as for the "courage of his convictions" I would argue he is rather cowardly for disregarding any and all posts that successfully challenge his "facts" especially when the challenge comes from people with experience in that particular issue. The rigidity of his opinions and his unwillingness to admit that he has offered untrue information to people is, I believe, a legitimate reason for people having problems with him.

 

just sayin