I actually agree I was just stating what I thought my idea of free speech was, and I don't think that I should get slammed into the ground for it. But then we're going into free speech again. It's all a big circle. It would just be nice if people could maturily and intellegently state why they object instead of saying that the other person's ideas are stupid.
Michael, I do not need the acceptence of a life-less idiot such as yourself. You are 30 and have done absolutely nothing with your life, while I, at 18, have expereinced more, lived more, and learned more than you could in 10 lifetimes.
If peoples have attacked you dont listen to them .If you were mad at them for dissagreeing with you then thats another story if its that then YOU need to ajust your thinking just a bit to fit your own ideals All and all I must say this to every one BE YOURSELF NOT A STERO TYPE(I must say thats a very hippiyish thing to say though )
how about we all just forget this shit, and be nice to each other? that sounds super good to me... although, it is a bit entertaining to watch you all bicker with each other!
Jesus H christmas, 12 pages of this? TTLM, I think you started something here. All I wanted to say was I personally don't think you're too young to have a kid - I have 2 daughters, My eldest had her first baby at 14 and the younger waited to the graceful age of 15. In a series of unfortunate events the oldest lost hers to the system, and we are presently waiting to get them back in our custody. But I don't blame her for what happened, she was doing a pretty good job in my book, it's just that the system they fell under saw an opportunity to step in and procure another $900/mo for themselves from the Federal government (all hail George ). My youngest daughter is living happily in a slightly less non-tyranial state with her 2 babies (and new bf of almost a year). But I could only stand the first 8 pages - sorry if I missed something. I noticed all but 1 of the replies were from people listing their age of 32 years or less, I don't remember being this vicious when I was 32, maybe I was. I just wanted to let you know you shouldn't put so much into the replies you get here, after all you are literally opening yourself up to the world when you ask for an opinion on the web. It's not our place to tell you how you should live your life, but there's always going to be someone who'll want to try. My advice is to deal with situations such as this with family, close friends, and your own heart. Save the internet for having a good time and making money. Hell, I saw somebody in this thread who I inferred was wanting me to worship them, and listed himself as being 18 - c'mon, I wasn't born yesterday, and I'll be damned if I'm going to idolize someone who was. Anyway, you sound as if you believe you can make it, and I do too. There's a lot of hard-working couples out there who waited till their 30's to have a kid and are screwing up royal. I don't think age has anything to do with it, it's just how much you care about your babies and what you're willing to sacrifice for them. I hope you and your new family enjoy a long, prosporous life. And PhoenixCocker, I hate to burst your bubble but I like Braunschweiger
confessor- I know, this went on a little more than I was expecting. lol I really don't know why I got so worked up yesterday. Hormones doing their work again, I guess. lol They make me crazy. But yeah, after I got off the computer when my bf got home, i told him why I was worked up, and, well, it just was nice to talk to someone who wasn't "virtual." The only replies I really take seriously are the ones from people who actually know what they're talking about. That's sad to hear about your oldest. I wish her all the hope in getting her baby back. That would be absolutly awful. It's painful to even think about. I can only imagine what she's going through. Makes me appreciate my situation all the more. I agree completely with what you said about the age thing. As I've said before, pretty much everyone in my family were teen parents. My oma and opa had my mom when my oma was 16. My grandma and grandpa had my dad's brother when they were 17, and my mom had me when she was 20. All young. And everyone is really well off now. I had a perfectly normal childhood. We've all had our hard times, but our lives were all basically just as normal as everyone else's. My family may give me a hard time sometimes, but that doesn't stop me from looking to them and seeing that anyone can do it. Time doesn't stop, and my baby is going to come into this world, and I'm going to have to do the best job that I can. If I listened to all the people who told me that i can't do it, I'd be no where. Yes, it's scary, but I can't wait to meet my baby and see just what this new life is going to have in store.
I said it before and I'm going to say it again. I think you're going to make a wonderful mother. Don't listen to others who might tell you differently, because they have not walked in your shoes. Have faith in yourself and your ability to be a great mother to your baby. I myself had flack from people even though I was MARRIED and having a baby at 21. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Like the saying goes, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. Chin up sweetie, it's going to be alright.
The key word is maturely, some people are just too immature to state an intelligent opinion without attacking someone else's as stupid. (Are you reading this, Michael and Rubin?) Just because two people call themselves hippies doesn't mean they're going to see eye to eye on everything, but part of the hippie philosophy is an intelligent and respectful exchange of ideas and viewpoints. There's plenty of that on this website, but we also get people who get a kick out of throwing a wrench into the works and turning it into a flame war. Welcome to the real world; it's filled with all different types of people, including some jerks.
I still have a copy of it saved on my system.....i think thats grounds for banning someone, wouldn't you say?
WOW!!!!! I just read this whole thread and it's vicious and at the same time informative. I don't care about labels, but hippy has always suited me fine. I have always been very active in all kinds of charity work, am against any kind of violence, am eniromentally aware and active. I believe we are all the colors of the rainbow and we are all connected through mother nature. You have to find peace with-in yourself and love all people. The ridiculer, the jerk, the know it all, the self obsorbed. We are all just humans trying to survive. If anything, I feel sorry for people who have so much anger and negative energy. That can't be a happy place. Teeny, it's gonna be OK. It will be tough but I'm sure you'll do just fine. But for the babies sake try to stay away from negative energies. Meditate and look around at how beautiful the world is the flower's and trees, go to a pond and feed the ducks and see how wonderful our world is. Bring in possitve energy and loving thought's. Release any bad thoughts or memories, gone are the bad experiences of the past. Live for the NOW and the today and wake each morning feeling the inner peace and love within you. Be yourself and love every minute of it. Peace and love be with you.