So many people decived by love.

Some species are designed to mate with one partner for life, most are not, but unlike animals we are designed with the ability to make decisions for ourselves, hence free will. It is wrong to say marriage is unnatural for people who truly want that ONE and only one in their life, in that way. On the other hand it is wrong to propose marriage is for all.

If marriage and monogamy become obsolete, I'm forming the asexual club

 

Yeah I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks that the topic starter makes tons of assumptions like that all love is doomed to fail, and that the pain can never go away when it does. And that no animals mate for life and that humans should do what other animals do (even though we're much smarter than any other animal and thus the only animal). He focuses on ideas that are irrelevant. Like why does it matter whether or not you call love an emotion or a sense? Are semantics so very important? And what does "giving love a name" mean and why exactly is it a negative thing to do so? He's completely failed at elaborating on many parts of this semi-coherent rambling.

 

What is that Shakespeare's quote? If you call a rose by any other name is it not still a rose? I know that's probably misquoted, but carries the same meaning that I understood from the original.

I'm tired of polygamists telling us that having that one special love is always doomed to fail, and completely unnatural as it is only "conditioned" into us by the church; as much as they are probably tired of being told by the religious right that marriage is sanction by god and expected of us all.

Can we all not make that decision for ourselves and let others do the same? Maybe we are not all meant to meet that special one, and some are. Maybe we all have our own individual needs in life, and each of our plans is different? Maybe it's just a matter of learning to love and accept someone for everything they are, and some of us are just not willing to do so because we don't truly love and respect ourselves?

Our journey's are all different, depending on our needs and desires, so in that respect I disagree with elitist views of ALL kinds.

 

I've realized a long time ago, soon after I realized that finding love for/from such a beautiful person has changed my life; that I'm the type of person that is enriched by such a (monogamous) relationship.
Before I had love - my anxiety disorder was worse, I was not a confident person, I was not a courageous person, I was not as good of a person, I was not a happy person, I feel I had too much of the fear in me to even really be a full person.
I don't think that will all just go away if the relationship was no more. I also know, that I will not see a point in trying for love, if even this amazing experience fails.
I guess that makes me monogamous.
My mum only tried dating twice after my dad died, got a few humps in and gave up; so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise to me.

There are other people though - that just don't need love. They can already find a sense of wholeness within themselves - they are already happy, already confident, they already have all the requirements for a rich life within.
Good for them.

And there are other people, for which, one person isn't interesting enough, one person isn't accessible enough, one person just isn't enough.
Whatever, just warn 'em when you date 'em.

I don't know why some of us try to force our idea of which is best for ourselves onto everyone.
It sort've reminds me of religion. Why battle? Just believe what you believe, do what you do, and live your own.

 

"Love is just a word. What matters is the connection that the word implies". Rama-Kandra

 

People can be ridiculous. The religious fight the non religious, and vice verses. beliefs of all kinds are pushed against each other, like a boxing match, and why? Their is no winner, and never will be. It's all about our own personal journey and maybe some are just to afraid to take it without dogma/drama. Everyone needs to chill and let others lead their own lives (of course without violence, or anything extreme).

Live and let live. Is that what Jesus said? or some other brilliant leader? Regardless

DO IT!!!!! it will only empower you

 

I dunno who said it, but it's been the basic message of all of our greatest teachers, from Jesus to Gandhi.

 

Are you kidding? No.

 

Are you serious? can you not follow a philosophical conversation? The point was WHAT was said, not who said it, hence the question mark after, was he the one that said that. Gandhi, Mother Theresa, who cares, it's a universal truth that we all own and can reach. Grow up!

I'm only human so I will say this...

Move your ignorant ass on. I have little patience for bullshit

 

Welcome to my Ignore list.

 

thank you.

 

Now you understand my approach in the other thread. =P

 

I got you now haha

I mean what the hell was that dude doing, but side tracking something deep with something irrelevant! that gets on my fucking nerves!

It's like those fuckers that point out spelling errors so they can look better than you!


Just take a shit in their mouths, it'd probably smell better

 

It depends on which type of love you refer to. Ancient Greek contains three different words for love.
Phileo= Love for one's family and friends

Agape= Divine or spiritual love.

Eros= Romantic love

It depends on your reality. All three types exist for most people but in my reality Eros does not exist for me. I've experienced Phileo and Agape but what I thought was Eros always turned out to be a cheap imitation.

I've discovered that I'm much better off being alone. Being single sure beats having to put up with the lies,cheating,being used etc. that comes with all realtionships. I know that this is not reality for all people but it is for me.

 

No he did say "Love one another as I have loved you."

 

I honestly believe that the OP and those who answered him, suffered from miscommunication. There was no standing definition of love and it most likely made you believe that you disagreed because of the conclusions were not parallel and consistent with each others. The trouble with communication is that if such a situation occurs where two or more individuals attempt to come to give each othertheir understanding of a specific thing(such as love) and they do not bring into transperency the word the wish to use, they will almost always disagree arbitrarily. Arbitrarily disagreements are never ending and lead to the highest amount of frustration because they lead to what seems is constant disagreement, when really it is simply a disagreement about the thing they words they are using, which in no way can come to resolution through the argument, but simply by diverting the attention towards the words they have used.

What I mean when I speak about the 'sound' and encryption 'love' is a feeling of strong agreement with someone, in a number of things.

I ask the people interested in philosophical communication to do so before I get into an argument with them about it, to minimize useless conflicts that lead to nowhere and generate a critically reflexive conflict that may lead to a stronger understanding and more control over the emotions of our lives.

 

Sometimes logic can get in the way of living.

What about true love, not soul mates, but love as it is? Our bullshit/ego's destroy it, but it is there. All around us, in us, so why can't two people put their ego's aside and absorb it?

 

I cannot reply to your post because it makes hardly any sense and suffers from a contradiction. You say that logic gets in the way of living, but do you not need logic to come to a conclusion? All thought is based on logic, thats the problem with logic gets in the way of living. I feel you though, yet feelings are largely deceptive..sometimes the strongest feelings do not reflect what will or will not happen in the future.

Can I ask that you first define what you refer to with the word love, before we go any further, it would suck if we miscommunicated on behalf of this.

Also can you elaborate on your thinking, I am open to it, because truth usually brings you more control over the direction of your life.

 

What if the flow flows off of a thousand foot cliff into really sharp rocks?

 

treehugger why didnt you asnwer?