So is he your boyfriend?

hey my room is spectacularly clean.

Well like 84% clean.

The coats are all on the floor because I was trying to rearrange the closet.

 

Its all smoke and mirrors

If you were gay, she'd already know, mothers ALWAYS know, and she'd know by stuff you got up to when you were little.

When your mum says stuff to you like that and you reply, with your reply she's not interested in what you say, but how you say it

Orison is right, with the men dressing up as women thing there is a kink that the girls have that guys dont understand, and it is a very hetero thing.

On the rare occasions gay guys do it, such as drag shows, they totally overcharacturise it, so as to avoid that kink and not attract straight girls

You dont see gay male teens ever trying to boob it up as an example

I think you'll end up working out your mom, with this at least, is way way ahead of you

 

i'm pretty sure he feels like a gay chick in a man's body (to put it simply)

 

....:dizzy2:..........................:banghead:



Cheers Glen.

 

I am not very flamboyant, I am however bitchy and dominate.. I couldnt make it on Ru Pauls, though I have the looks, legs, facial structures they are looking for.. Id have one them queens knocked the fuck out in a few minutes.. And I dont drink alcohol - seems to be a theme there with the drunk trannies.. Idk..

Ill smoke them out though..

 

sometimes i wonder if you all genuinely dont remember my name or if you fuck it up on purpose.

back on topic, yea in one of my threads i confessed that my whole mentality is really not male, the way i described it was that i was a lesbian with penis envy in a mans body; it makes it a bit difficult to make friends with guys so as it turns out 95% of my friends are female, guys generally think im gay when im not, it used to piss me off, but now its more of an annoyance. i dont think id ever go for the whole sex change thing, cuz i really kind of dig being a man, but i can see why syd would want to, females are works of art and guys usually look tossed together with spare parts. but as for dressing, well ill admit that i occasionally wear tights under my shorts, and i own a few skirts that i like to wear on special occasions, though i cant exactly tell me conservative christian parents about it. open minded they are not. and some girls are comfortable about it, but not all, so its kind of a secret that ppl generally dont know unless im tripping, when im tripping i love wearing me tights and skirts, and occasionally ive lost the skirt altogether.

i really only have one question for you Syd: do you want to keep your penis? like are you gonna be a T-girl, or are you going for the "look at my new pussy" process? either way, go you

 

syd, has spoken up about gender modifications. I believe her answer is yes..

I myself dont wish to change anything about my sexual organs. Boobs would be nice, some plastic surgery, hair removal.. Ill keep the penis.. I could go without the nuts, they are more obtrusive than the penis, alot of uncomfortable feelings when preforming exercises, work, generally they dont behave!!!! I think they are useless with the sperm donation process, you can store your nuts case you want to have child.. now they are just in the way.. and I know for fact erections are still fully maintained when the testes have been removed...

sorry if I spoke out if turn for yeah syd.. .

 

That's for the future to decide, most trans women(the surgery for trans men is really in its infant stages and pretty bad, so most dudes don't get it) start off wanting the surgery, as I do now. Things change over time. A t-girl wouldn't want to be called a t-girl(well there is a very small segment that like the whole idea of being a third gender). No one minus your partner ever sees your genitals, it doesn't really effect how people perceive your male/femaleness.

Regardless whether someone wants it or not the pragmatic facts of it's an expensive and major surgery that comes with a lot of potential risks. It all comes down to the level of dysphoria at the time when someone has the financial means to consider it.

Truth be told though and I guarantee the vast amount of trans people would agree with me on this(minus the ones who naturally had really feminine faces to begin with) that if you gave them $15,000 to get surgery they'd take knives to the face over knives to the crotch since people look at your face at a near constant level.

 

you know what im curious of, is there a gender-neutral way of speaking? like, most people avoid calling a black person black, so you use gender, but gender isnt that important (to me anyway) but i used to be a host at a restaurant, and its difficult to be confronted with, say, a man in drag. usually i think they were purposely making others uncomfortable. i mean, if you are dressed as a woman, then is it appropriate to say she? i usually would just drop the monikers, but Sir and Ma'am are ingrained in me. in the military a female officer can be called Sir, sometimes you can't tell gender, like if they are facing away. my son calls me sir, and i dont get offended because of the military view, but some people would.
so, i guess my question is more, is there a respectful moniker for someone whos gender may not be obvious? and if there isnt, then there should be. a unisex moniker of respect.

 

i hear you, i wouldnt mind getting some plastic surgery on my face, there are things about my face that i really hate, i know id like to have a smoother more "conventional" (idk if thats the word i mean, or if there really is a word for what i mean) looking face.

and if you are uncomfortable with the term i used, my apologies.

 

I wouldn't know what to call someone in drag at restaurant either since the whole point of drag is to obviously be a man dressing like a woman, this is actually a debate I've seen before among trans people and they're all equally as stumped since you can normally tell the difference between a woman who's just masculine, and a man who's just dressing as a woman for fun.

*edit*
The general consensus though is just to go with ma'am since any guy who's in public in drag probably wouldn't take offense to being called ma'am.

 

the thing is, that if you say the 'wrong' thing, the only way to explain make it worse, conventionally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE"]YouTube - The Parrot Sketch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE"]YouTube - Right of Self Determination - Monty Python Holy Grail : Autonomous Collective

"sorry, you look like a man/ woman when you arent one. not my fault is it? dress yourself as you wish to be called, or dont get fucking offended. may i show you to your table now?" doesnt really work, and wont keep you employed

 

oh one thing i forgot to add: just because you have had girlfriends wouldnt necessarily mean that you werent gay, most gay guys ive known had several girlfriends and were having sex with them before they came out. some guys are committed to the illusion, though im not saying you are, just a little something to say so you arent mad at your mother.

 

i see, that's pretty awesome.

 

not sure how to word this as not to be offensive to anybody.

when you say "drag" do you mean the stereotypical drag queen attire?

while yes i wouldlike to be able to wear certain types of womens clothing all the time i wouldnt want to walk around dressed like the stereotype.honestly i wouldnt mind being able to go out in public in a nice pair of heels.not the "drag queen"type but something thats a straight matte black fabric that could be somewhat covered by my pants,nothing flashy or obvious like these http://img2.prosperent.com/images/250x250/site.unbeatablesale.com/img7002/plsr15385.jpg edit** butwith a squarer toe

for some reason i like the platforms with the strap.i have worn them before in the house without my ex knowing and i liked them.

 

Have you ever had a really good long think about that?

Shouldnt the parents have already known? Dont parents know their kids better than anyone. Why do you assume they didnt?

Your sister came out and your dad freaked out, but didnt really say much, by his reaction you assumed he didnt know previously and you automatically assumed he freaked out cos she is now gay.

None of what you've said there is true, you just assumed all of it, without really talking to them about it and you are not going to find out what their real problem is if they are never going to tell you.

Your mum accepted it? No, most likely not. Yes she has to pretend she does as she's the mum, she is most likley is less accepting than your dad. What your dad initially freaked out about, you have no idea. Your dad is a guy, driven by the male ego like most. Guy talk, what all his mates are going to say to him when they find out one of his daughters is a Lesbian, well you are never going to hear that cos they dont do the guy talk when there are females around or guys/parents not of the same age


Similar kind of thing with this thread, I've read enough to know now whats going on, seen it many times before, he's not gay, not a MTF tranny...it'd be a safe bet that the mum knows too. But because people need to keep things simple, pidgeon hole everyone, jump to quick assumptions, OP is going to have a whole lot of people telling him such and such behaviour means he's this or that, thus another decade of confusion. What those whole lot of people will never say to him is where the truth lies

 

When I say drag I mean the gaudy, campy, over the top kind of look, the cliche drag queen look if you'd like. People in drag are trying to look like a woman, but in an over the top way that's obviously meant to be a performance(well normally, some do it in a very convincing, normal non over the top way, but its still basically just a performance for fun since at the end of the night they go back to being a normal boy)

Someone who's wearing clothes of the opposite gender for sake of preference of clothing and not actually trying to appear as the opposite gender normally gets called crossdressing. But it's all a matter of societal norms. There are a few articles of clothing that can be inherantly masculine or feminine, mainly jock straps and bras are all I can think of, but aside from that, crossdressing only exists because of societal norms; to the point that really only men can do it since it's perfectly fine for a woman to wear most male clothes(obviously a woman in full tuxedo might draw some looks), but due to male culture men can't even wear clothes from the male section of the stores if they appear feminine without being called out on it in some circles.

What defines masculine/feminine clothing though, and hence what falls what can technically be called crossdressing constantly changes though history, for example:
-High heeled shoes were originally for men, since men generally prefer being taller and height often commands respect
-Blue and pink until the Edwardian era right before WW1 were reveresed, pink use to be a boys color. No one is really quite sure how it changed.
-Essentially any "hip" clothing a guy would've worn in the later 60's could never be found in a men's department today.
-Unless your a hipster who's buying their jeans in the girl's department anyways, if you're wearing tight jeans even if their guy jeans some people are going to think you're wearing girl jeans anyways, despite the fact for 30 years from the mid 60's to the rise of grunge and rap in 1990 any young man would've worn tight jeans, it'd be pretty unmanly not to show off what you're supposed to have.
-Did you know 100 years ago wearing a wrist watch would've been crossdressing, or at least wearing feminine attire since the pocked watch was for men, the wrist watch was invented for women since they generally didn't have pockets. Soldiers in WW1 though found the convience in having a watch on your wrist.

Ect, ect, ect the list goes on. Essentially the main point is clothing can only be masculine or feminine by societal standards, women in the past 50 years broke down most societal restrictions on their clothing, at least to the point they can wear something that's not feminine and not have their entire sexuality or gender identity questioned.

Men however as a whole are still being retarded about it and basically build their own "masculinity" prisons to the point even some aspects of basic hygiene some guys won't do cause ZOMG it's gay.(for example, use conditioner guys, in fact if you use shampoo and don't use conditioner you're fucking retarded and are destroying your hair)

*edit*
lmao this thread has near 900 views, I thought it'd get like 3 replies than fade off into the night.

 

EXACTLY!!! seriously ive had so many ppl call me gay because i take care of my hair, leaving conditioner in my hair for 20 mins just so my hair can be healthy and soft. either that or a metrosexual. my response? im not gay, just vain.

 

thanx syd :2thumbsup:

and ive always used conditioner in my hair when its long.hate the nastry rough feeling it gets from being dried out from the un or the nasty shit that drips into it from workin under a car.

 

The best thing to do is just not use shampoo at all. Last time I used shampoo was like 4 weeks ago, and that was because I hadn't been able to take a shower in over 3 days so my hair did get pretty built up grease in it by then. Most people can in fact not use shampoo at all and have their hair even better than it was. People who's hair is naturally very straight can be the exception where shampoo once in a while works since they generally have greasier scalps from the shape of their follicles.

Only down side is your hair will in fact be greasy for like a month while your scalp adjusts.

The irony is for years I saw so many threads here about people not using shampoo, but I always thought it was hippie bullshit until I saw a thread on somethingawful where people were saying ditching shampoo was the best thing they ever did for their hair.(and it is)