So do you really?

You still don't get it, you think there is something inherently better about the millionaire than the crackhead. You don't get that it's all the same, we are all one.

Dear god man! You say this like it's a bad thing . . . I feel so sorry for you

WHat laws? What possible universal laws could there be which I was not following? If that were the case, why call them laws?!?!

Life is what you make of it man! You are searching for some kind of cosmic pat on the back for doing a good job, but it's not there! Don't you get it? You are perfect, right here, right now! Where else could the truth be, but inside you? Where else is there to look?!

 

wow you guys are good!

 

Writer, are you unfamiliar with the circular nature of illogic and irrational assumative probings that come from our dear friend 3xi?

 

MOO..

 

I do it in hopes of showing him the better way that's just on the tip of his nose, but we both know that this knowledge cannot be communicated, only "transmitted" from a sufficiently life-changing experience. Hopefully that experience is near for him.

 

It sounds like your ego knows what his ID SHOULD want out of life. That is quite funny to me, because ideas like what I find to be important, which is really nothing in my opinion, yet to say that this is not a choice made by the individuals smacks of Freudacide. Not to say that the want might not wash over a person that they do the normal thing everyone there age does, that is normal, it is the genetic process and we all carry genes of super similarity (do not quote me on that) so the urge may be there for that reason but the choice to ignore that is a cognitive and unconscious one at the same time. Doesn't matter, but it is fun to talk about. And who is to say that the homeless crackhead didn't start that journey just to see where it ended for them selves. Gotta have faith in people I now see, cause that lack of faith is dividing us up. If you see a crackhead and you think its sad, ask if they need a pickup, some real love, do something for humanity, not just for social status!!!!:cheers2:

 

Oh here is another point I just saw from 3xi.

For example, you want to be an Astronaut but in the academy you are sabotaged by a silent hater, you never knew what hit you until after his first mission in the spot you would have had, had you not been hated on. He calls you on the phone to tell you about it and Bam, the spice hits your nose and you see that you were destined to not make it because you didn't see it when you had the chance.

There are many harder ways to find out your dreams have been cashed I bet, but that is a good point. I still would prolly say fuggit! But I doubt the things I find important are really important for long, and the shit that is important for very long due to a neediness most likely don't attract me to begin with. Truly I get bills and shit being important to some, and I know they can be trouble, so avoid bills as best you can. be frugal and shit, but still if you want to go do something that you know will fuck you up in the end, you still may just go do it, or you may not. Either way you die both ways!

 

"What possible universal laws could there be which I was not following?" - what kind of question is this? You're actually accentuating my point with this question. You are bound by the laws of the universe and therefore there are no laws that you can "not follow".

So maybe you would like to share with us what you do for a living. If life is completely up to you then we are left to assume that at this moment you must have everything that you ever wanted or desired.

Please do me a favor and get one of your friends to take a picture of you jumping off of the CN Tower. I'm sure that if what you say is true you will survive this without a parachute. Hopefully just the fact that you are so sure of yourself will save you from winding up a splatter of mess on the ground.

You would think that it would become obvious when you wake up in the morning and realize you have to work for a living or when you look round at the life you have and wish you had more or wish it was easier.

This is actually a really funny argument because it's almost impossible for anyone to argue to the contrary but yet you'll still find a way to play with your words so that you can fool yourselves. The arguments I make are obvious to everyone and I use words that are not difficult to understand. I especially love how relayer comes into a forum and has nothing to say at all on the point except that he just doesn't like me. He knows better by now that he shouldn't even try to argue the other side because there's no use. Why would you want to express yourself honestly and intelligently in a public forum? Would it not be better to just become a moderator and then just shoot mindless attacks and insults instead.

Mr. writer and relayer might want to do themselves a favor and actually learn to accept others enough, so that they can read through some of these posts with an open mind instead of desperately trying to find the other side of the argument because they hate the person who made a point which they don't quite understand.

Every day when you wake up reality is showing you exactly what I'm trying to help you understand yet you continue to miss the point. Do you honestly think that if you convince yourself of this psychotic philosophy that your life will stop shitting on you and give you exactly what you desire.

I'm pretty sure that relayer actually agrees with me on these points and is just afraid to openly agree on a forum for what that might mean! Too concerned about what other people think maybe? If not, maybe you would like to elaborate on the subject.

Please please please, Mr. writer, could you please elaborate with some examples from your life. Tell us all how your life is exactly how you want it to be and how there is nothing that can stop you from doing anything. Give us some examples from your life that help in proving your point. You see you write so little that is easy to think that you actually do agree with my argument but you just get hung up on words and semantics. I'm not saying that we do not have creative influence in our life. I spend a lot of time in my life helping others understand how they can create a better life for themselves just by believing in themselves. We have the power to create our own life but we have to work within the laws of the universe. There's only so much we can do. It is obvious that you have just skimmed over a lot of what I have said because I have already made it clear in this thread that I believe we have creative influence over our lives. So for you to argue the other side of this is to suggest that you are not bound by the laws of the universe and you can create whatever life you wish. This is the point I would like you to elaborate on. Maybe you could bring in some pictures of some phenomenal achievement. Or maybe you could go back and read my posts again and try to understand what I am getting at instead of arguing the other side you could just elaborate on similar points. Or are you gonna hold yourself to that statement that life is whatever you want to be? If that is the case could you please elaborate some more. What have you experienced in your life that has made it so obvious to you that you are not bound by the laws of the universe and that you can create whatever life you choose?

 

Here is evidence that you need to work on your reading comprehension. What I've quoted here is a response to a quote of mine. If you read what I wrote again you will notice that I was not comparing a crackhead to a millionaire.

Maybe this is just how you like to see or understand only what you want to see or understand.

I was comparing an unhealthy homeless person to a healthy person with a home. Then I was comparing the millionaire without love to someone with little money and lots of love.

This is probably the biggest factor when trying to understand why Mr. writer continues to have difficulty understanding the points I make!

 

Would you like to participate in a homosexual video with me darling?

 

I really should just bow out, but I love a good discussion.

Ok.

Of course not. I'm a stupid human being who'd rather sit at home and try kratom for the first time in his pygamas than solve world hunger. Tonight, instead of curing aids, I will probably just get high and masturbate. I might watch a movie and talk to a friend on the phone, but that's about as much of an hero that I am. You think that just because you have all the power in the world that therefore you have all the wisdom in the world?

Yeah you really don't understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying you can break the laws of physics or biology. If you cut me, I will bleed. This has nothing to do with the fact that life is what you make of it . . . of course there are limits to things, all things have limits. Even the sun will one day burn out. Does this diminish the amazing potential of the sun?

Of course we wish all sorts of things. I wish I was woken up everyday with a blowjob from a greek godess. This may shock you, but what me and Relayer and most of this forum are trying to get through your head is that you can be happy no matter who you are or what you're doing. Of course I would be thrilled to win 1 million dollars tomorrow; how does this invalidate what I am saying???

I'm not desperately trying to find another side to the argument, I'm vehemently opposed to what you're saying. I don't understand how someone who has done as much acid as you have can think like this. Doing acid is exactly what FREED me from stupid thinking like "If I can't fly, then I can't be happy. Life is hard work and we have to BE AN HEROS~ and do SUPAR GUD so that [...]"

And with this gem you show not only that you don't understand what we're saying, but that you are a very sad person who thinks that life is shitting on him when it rains.

And just to help you understand better, "exactly what I desire" is whatever I have at any given moment. I am filled with bliss and peace even when I'm angry and depressed. You honestly think this is about little stupid shit like "getting what you want"?! Ooh nice, I got an Ipod! My soul is complete

I am alive.

PS. When I die, that's cool too.

(understand?)

Well, other than the current parameters of this reality, some of which for example are those things we call the "laws of physics" which technology in the future may of course overpass and whathaveyou. But yes other than this small condition, you can do anything you want. If you want you can start a cult tomorrow and eventually kill 10,000 people with poison believing you are angels incarnate, or you can run a marathon tomorrow, or you can make love with your soul mate, or you can fall down a sewer and die. The universe is a fountain of surprises

Agreed. This is never something I didn't agree on. Somebody who thinks they can work outside the bounds of reality is clearly disjoint from reality, ie. crazy. I'm not particularly crazy.

So we agree there. Where we disagree is that I say Now within the bounds of these limitations, you can do -anything-.

 

well our priorities do come from our own minds, but being that they are restricted by the bounds of reality, certain differences in dispositions are really just emergences of the same archetypes.

this reality only bears so many archetypes and they will all present themselves. that, we cannot choose. we will all end up in the same place with the same experiences.

 

Wow, that's quite a depressing and fatalistic interpretation of the universe. Wtf is up with you guys!

You can think of us all as just manifestations of Archetypes A-Z, no problem, but I think you'll find the universe is much more beautiful and magical if you see the novelty and uniqueness of every single person (within the bounds of things that make us similar, like our bodies [which won't be true in the future!]).

 

i dont find it depressing in the slightest. the place that we end up isnt the end, it is just the beginning. but to get there we must first experience all of the archetypes that karma has in store for us. after this reality then we truly have 'freedom of expression'

we are like caged animals. we are all different but we must still conform to the confounds of our cage. which means that while we are in the cage we are all very similar.

the cage isnt a negative thing. it protects us until we are ready.

even though essentially the cage is our identity, our uniqueness. individuality is quite the misconception.

 

If individuality is an illusion then what is the point of karma? I thought karma was the cosmic balancing scale for souls. No individuality, no souls.

Did you ever think that conceptualizing the universe this way ensures that you will approach situations and think in a way which reinforces that conceptualization, and that then you say "Oh, I must be right about my concept, since it applies here", when in fact the universe is a much wider and deeper place than "cages" and "individuality" and "karma"?

 

karma affects everyone the same. we are all the same karma/destiny basically. i guess maybe i should have said we are not unique, instead of not individual. we have our individuality, there is just no uniqueness to it.

if we were truly unique then karma would for one person be different from another person. but since we are in this reality there are the same archetypes that karma brings up for everyone over time.

we are unique in the sense that our mode of interpretation of archetypes is often unique, and the order in which we experience them is also often unique. the journey may vary some, but we are pretty much all on the same path going to the same place. all paths lead to unity of being.

ourside of this reality, we are all one. inside this reality, we are all the same. thus any perception of individuality we might have is a misconception.

 

got milk?

 

The last two posts covered it.
What is lacking in our discussion here, is the wonder that is the absurd.
We are talking about LSD, not holy communion wafers.

 

Just as I thought, we do agree!:cheers2: