So... about that Mueller investigation

now its time to look at democrats

 

In what way are the votes rigged according to you?

 

It's not off topic at all. Everyone created this conspiracy theory that Russia interfered with the election. I'm just saying...psychologists know all about you conspiracy theorists.

 

As a matter of fact, from all accounts, the Mueller report confirms that Russia tried to interfere with the election. It just doesn't link Trump or his campaign to that. But the Russian troll farms were real and active. And prominent members of the Trump campaign were indicted (and Manafort was convicted and sentenced) for violations involving foreign contacts.

 

Yes, 63000000 Americans think so … what do you think about it?

 

Yes I agree, and it seems to the motivating factor in Jay Sekulow's position on keeping Trump's hand written answers to Mueller sealed. It seems that is something Trump and Barr and Sekulow do not want Americans to read.

 

Oh yeah--I'm changing my mind completely about trump. Thank you god for showing me that he really is a wonderful human being that would never take advantage of anyone in business like they said--would never say that when you're a star you can do anything-even grab women by the pussy--would never insult people who have lost their sons in war--would never insult those that were captured and tortured for years--would raise a group of wonderful children to be just like him--would never stoop so low by insulting anyone that dared mention that he isn't just absolutely perfect --perfect--perfect--perfect--prefect--( this post will self destruct in --in--in-ioxkdokriirfklkkkkllpwllwisjn--

 

I've opened a thread on why people believe conspiracy theories, if you or others are interested.

 

If a country can interfere with with another countries election then it's rigged.

 

I think if another country can influence a decision in any way then it is a complete facade and completely rigged. And it doesn't even matter if it's true or not about Russia, the fact that there has to be an investigation pretty much says it all. If 63000000 still believe they can put on their fine jeans and dress shirts and to go to the polls and believe they're legitimately going to have their voice heard from a government so corrupt in its voting campaign, then damn that's a lot of dumb people.

If it's not a million fake emails it's Russia legitimately interfering, the popular vote didn't win blah blah blah oh but nope nothing to see here, this is all "normal".

C'mon man.

 

Heh... that was pretty clever.

 

This aged well..

 

She reminds me of some people on this site. She's shamelessly obsessively obsessed.

 

Well, now McConnel has blocked the release of the Mueller report to the American people. He's the one who changed the Senate rules to get Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barr into position to shield Trump from criminal charges.

 

Something they have likely been doing since the Cold War. And in that time it's likely they have managed to recruit, extort and murder their way into learning all kinds of shit about everyone in Washington. I'd be surprised if they didn't worm their way in. And not just them. Plenty of nations have plenty of reasons to try to steer US politics. Which is surprisingly easy with the way Americans are so easily seduced by the media.

I wonder if Lichtenstein has any spies or moles in DC. Or New Caledonia!

 

It's good to have hobbies.

 

It’s not about changing one’s opinions on Trump. It’s a matter of rethinking one’s level of trust in the mainstream media.

What the media did was push a fake news story that wasted so much time, energy, and taxpayer money that could’ve been put to much better use. It was divisive, and they pushed this story hard enough they were willing to start Cold War II over this.

If I were a democrat, I’d feel like I had been strung along and deceived.

The worst part about this for the Democrats, is that this fake Russia conspiracy they peddled for 2 years has practically given Trump a 2nd term. Unless Trump royally fucks up, or recession happens between now and 11/2020, that might be their only shot at victory.

How about they try attacking Trump for his actual faults, rather than making up some bullshit theories to try and steer the attention away from stealing the primary from Sanders, and murdering Seth Rich.

 

Wasted? That would depend on what's in Mueller's report, what if anything it reveals about Russian meddling and the behavior of key figures in the Trump campaign, and whether or not Congress is able to do anything with it. We don't know that yet. Was the Watergate investigation a wast of time, energy, and taxpayers money? What about all those years spent by a Republican Congress investigating Whitewater? Or investigating Hellary's emails and connection to Benghazi. No hint on their part that it was wasted time, effort and money? Lock er up, they still chant, even though they came up dry. In fact they're calling for reopening it. If I were a right winger, I'd feel I'd been hoodwinked. Is that how you feel? Or are you one of the hoodwinkers? The "fake" Russian conspiracy is reportedly substantiated in Mueller's findings, and there have been what--37 indictments, including a number of Russians and the President's former lawyer and his campaign manager, . Why are your so anxious to persuade us that the Russians weren't involved in attacking our elections? Your readiness to parrot Republican talking points makes me wonder if you're jockeying for a job as a White House spin doctor. Trump may well be good for a second term, and the American people will be the losers.

McConnel just blocked an effort to make the Mueller report public. Evidently, the Republicans want free rein to characterize its contents without a reality check.

 

That's what's so amazing about all of this; how many people were so easily taken in by stories and insinuations that were nothing more than stirring an empty pot. It's as if all the media, some selected politicians and others (bloggers, vloggers, whores and porn "stars") were doing their best to stir up hatred. And focus nearly all of it onto one man.

Think about all the mechanization that puts into motion as well as the more analog responses. I think someone wanted him assassinated. And I think a LOT of pure grain assholes would have actually had the stones to celebrate it. Being driven into such a frenzy by people you trust could yield all kinds of interesting acts of desperation.

Being unable to step back and survey the potential damage that could be had by blindly following story tellers is dangerous and sad. Families are being broken up over wedge issues and talking points. But then, people are getting killed over shoes and hats. So many, so easily led to their own ruin.