Snorting Valium

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Philly_Hippie17, Jun 4, 2004.

  1. Fractual_

    Fractual_ cosmos factory

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    first off, i am sad you chose to reply to his post instead of mine, lol.

    dont get me wrong those are generally good people you mentioned, but most of their revolutions took place in the external. buddha and maybe gandhis revolutions were a lot more personal, and internal, and in my opinion what really counts. and how many people like buddha exist today, thirsting for knowledge like he did, on his own?
     
  2. Sunnie

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    I dont see why some of you people have a beef with other people using drugs...
     
  3. VanAstral

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    My roomie is a heroin addict, fool, he's a nice guy too, gosh golly, he even has a job... he slobbers once in a while, but he's a nice guy, I let him live, he lets me live, we like living, we like laughing at our respected predicaments, and no one's crying to the world all is going to hell. sorry your addict wasn't as fun.

    Thank you for pointing out that I have figured out how the world works. What have you done lately?

    And that's funny, I don't think I've mentioned yer name... don't be so conceited.

    I didn't know your encyclopedias were the only source of information.
    You refuse to allow drugs to explore that other source of info, and that is why yer mind's close. don't be mad, we've identified it, admitted, and now we can move on...

    Wow, that's a big list of famous people... should check and see if A&E Biography is hiring.
    Oh, you're a nurse... hey that tops, mate... I like nurses. And I'm happy you're happy (you don't sound like it sometimes though), happy all the way 'round...
    cheers!
     
  4. meglomaniac

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    All i know is painkillers are very addictive. I had surgery and was put on percs. Well i got a month supply and thats all it took. I ended up taking them for a little over a year daily. Now i'm off them for the most part. I still break down and buy them once in awhile. The high is amazing which in it self is dangerous. And when you decide to stop using them you feel like a big piece of shit for over a week. Oh well when i'm on them i'm a blast, i socialize more and just feel better about everything. When i don't take them i'm an intervert, stick to my self rarely go out. I was that way before taking them. So maybe i have some other problem here that the drugs hide. All i have to say is its a dangerous road because there going to be a time where you will feel that you can't be without them. Everyone thinks they have it under control and only use once in awhile, but that will change over time. If you decide you going keep on taking painkillers you deserve the consequences. The funny thing was that when i started taking them, most of the people at my work place was already taking them. So in was easy to get.... Oh well still fighting to stay off them. Now about other drugs, I enjoy smoking weed, taking mushrooms or acid. But i never got addicted to any of these and can go years with getting high.
     
  5. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    I don't buy your amsterdam argument. That would never work in America. Ours is a more diverse culture with more varied degrees of income, education, and viewpoints. Amsterdam also is more socialist then our society, so they have fewer social problems all around. Not to mention the fact that they have about 300 million times fewer people than we do. And as I said before, you cannot make people get off drugs unless THEY want to.

    I do, however, agree that drug education should be improved upon. The use of scare tactics will inevitably backfire.

    I wish you would more thouroughly address my point about the risk of women getting pregnant while on drugs and the risk to children whose parent's choose to do any kind of drug. No one can be a responsable parent while tripping on mushrooms.

    This is the main point at which we differ, I believe. To me, the risk outweighs any benefit. I know of no society that has eliminated poverty, provided health care to all of its citizens, or changed for the better at any given moment due to drugs. That being said, I can name a million societies that have been brought down or nearly brought down due to drugs (urban blacks in America, for one.)

    I don't expect everyone who has taken acid to save the world, as you said that is a very difficult thing to do nowadays. But given all the benefits to psychadelics you listed, one would think that the proportion of activists and leaders would be higher in that demographic.

    It might interest you to know that marijuana HAS been used to promote war. During Sierra Leone's recent civil war, child soldier's as young as 8 were kidnapped and trained to fight against the government. The children, naturally, did not want to fight. So to make them more cooperable, the militia men forced them to smoke pot everyday TO MAKE THEM APATHETIC. When they needed the kids to kill even more people, they would cut slits in their temples and insert packets of cocaine directly into their bloodstream. All the pot and cocaine numbed their senses till once innocent kids were now capable of commiting murder and rape. I can show you an article if you'd like the whole story.

    Now, am I saying that all potheads are murdering savages? No. But what I am saying is that pot makes ALOT of people apathetic. Out of the hundreds of potheads that I've met, only a handful care about issues outside of their inner circle. Of these, the only issue most care about is--you guessed it--the legalization of marijuanna.

    Also in today's world (whether you like it or not) if you smoke weed it reduces your credibility to other people as an activist and leader. If anyone wants to make any kind of difference on any level, (and again, I'm not saying you have to, but for those of us who do) it takes credibility.

    If only it were that simple. Unfortunately, in today's world most people don't take responsibility for their actions about anything, much less their choices on drug use. I'm afraid your dream world is a LONG way off. Just out of curiosity, how exactly would you regulate "people taking responsibility"? And I'd be much more inclined to give people the "freedom to choose" if the choices they make (particularly the negative ones) didn't effect everyone around them who never asked for that choice to be made.

    -Kate
     
  6. Philly_Hippie17

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    Not trying to be mean man, but why do you bother, Its not like your gonna change anything ,By trying to prove everybody wrong, on there views on drug use



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  7. Fractual_

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    well i happen to be stoned right now so i don't feel like reading all that just right now... but i don't remember even mentioning amsterdam.
     
  8. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    I said in the family. How do you think your roomate's family feels about his addiction? Things are a little different when you're just friends with the person. And I think I have a right to be bitter when my uncle steals money from my disabled grandfather and pawns his blind grandmother's wedding and engadgement rings.

    Well, since you asked, I just graduated high school in the top 10% of my class and am now preparing to go to college.

    You were talking about people who don't do drugs. That includes me.

    I have already been over this "open mind" "closed mind" debate (a rather redundant and pointless debate since you have never met me and there is no way of measuring how "open" a person's mind is.
     
  9. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    It's okay. I didn't have any higher expectations for you. :)
     
  10. Philly_Hippie17

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    Drugs are Drugs, you cant stop people from doing them, know what im saying ,


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  11. Fractual_

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    lol yeah man. the war on drugs IS pretty much pointless.


    i really like all the pictures that come with your post:sunglasse
     
  12. Philly_Hippie17

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    Baby are you calling me an idiot......

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  13. Fractual_

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    rofl philly..

    yea who are the fucking idiots? and can i get an explanation if its me
     
  14. Philly_Hippie17

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    I Dont Know Yet.. Still didnt figure it out lol :p
     
  15. Fractual_

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    it isn't really all dangerous when it comes to things like valium. its like really really weak heroin.

    i've snorted shit in the past, does that mean i'm an idiot? i havent did it in a really long time but i probably would again if it came up.
     
  16. Fractual_

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    probably because you cant understand any of those 126 replies.
     
  17. VanAstral

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    oh strawberry, where did we go wrong?
    ho hum... well, his family, we assume, is dead, thanks for asking. his friends 'round here are his family, and that weird gang of lumberjacks up in the Hazelton Mountains, Bristish Columbia.. they practically raised him. No one's sure what happened to them though. ANyhoo... let's exchange numbers, work something out, introduce these addicts... though I will warn my addict to keep an eye on his wallet.
    Top 10 per cent! hey, that's cool, man. Frame that diploma, be proud, and realize: that stoner kid who barely passed has one too. Only now your doors are open to more expensive schools.
    ... um... you silly goose, this isn't a debate regarding open or closed minds, don't be afraid, it's a fact: drugs can produce a source of knowledge, and you refuse this knowledge. All your books say it is bad, you have a million government-sponsored reasons that say it's bad, you even have your own heroin addict to show you just how bad it can get. But don't fret, grasshopper, you are smart, that is obvious, your school commends you, and so do I, seriously, and I have all the faith in the world, that should you experiment with some weed or 'shrooms (I won't defend hard drugs), you will not decay into some crack whore.
    However, by the sounds of it, you don't need drugs... you are establishing a reputable life without them. It's people like you who keep society up and running, people like you who make it possible for drug users to sit in the park and ponder existence. keep up the good work, aye, mate. Let's get together and feel all right.
     
  18. acetonephish

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    hmm di di

    its hard to understand people when theyre hacked up on drugs ;)
     
  19. Fractual_

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    not all of them were, i'm sure some were though, lol.
     
  20. Orsino

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    If you want to snort... snort oxygen. Maybe it will help the oxygen flow in contrast with the popped brain cells and blood flow in your brain. Not only that, I think "snorting shit" is dumb. It's disgusting. Why would you want to inhale feces?
     

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