Smoking Banned In Us Public Housing

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  1. Piney

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    The Housing and Urban Development Department’s mandate will ban all smoking in public housing across America.

    “Every child deserves to grow up in a safe, healthy home free from secondhand cigarette smoke,” HUD Secretary Julian Castro.
     
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  2. Asmodean

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    Another reason to ban children.
     
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  3. Meliai

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    Sounds good to me. A lot of rental properties dont allow smoking these days, this really isnt any different.

    The smell of smoke inside is one of the most disgusting smells in the world.
     
  4. WOLF ANGEL

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    I am not a smoker, and not a fan of such,
    But where's the choice of freedom? Big Brother's further touch?
     
  5. Asmodean

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    Indeed. If there are no kids in some households why make it a default and obligatory thing. I decide if I want my house to stink or not, thanks.

    But I'm not concerned as I doubt this will become a law in my area. I have already decided to smoke far far less inside my next residence (you can easily get rid of the smell in a day or so but not so much the yellow walls or sticky curtains. Takes a few years to get them like that though :p)
     
  6. rollingalong

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    I feel that rental units that are equipped with balconies should absolutely be excepted


    because when you want to smoke you can just put the kids out on the balcony


    ;)




    seriously though....good law...about time....
     
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  7. StellarCoon

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    I'm surprised smoking wasn't already prohibited.
     
  8. Ged

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    Realistically speaking,how will this ban be effectively enforced.Most smokers will probably just continue to smoke and try and mask the evidence.
     
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    whenever ya go to one those housing projects. the aroma of tobacco mixed with weed, also known as a blunt, smells up the places like a baby shit its pants and rolled over in dog shit.. [​IMG]
     
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  10. Wu Li Heron

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    Its just money doing all the driving in the continuing war on drugs. The poor make up half of all smokers in the country and the feds are sick of paying the medical bills for the tobacco industry. I'm sure they would love to make refraining from smoking a requirement for medicaid eligibility, but deterrents like this just won't work on people who have no money and shorter lifespans to begin with. They'll just switch to using e-cigarettes which you can't smell.
     
  11. Luna Lovesong

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    parents smoked for years and years. and YEARS my parents smoked inside until I was a teenager. all it did was make me a smoker....which I guess is what they are trying to deter, but what business is it of theirs? you think that these kids you're trying to protect inside their homes weren't smoked out in the womb? you think they aren't going to smoke in their cars still? what about going to visit family that doesn't live in government housing but still smokes inside? that kids house is one place of many that he/she goes to...you cant protect them everywhere

    and who thought it was a good idea to take a vice away from already stressed out people and call it good for the children?
     
  12. Meliai

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    My mom was an inside smoker too and i had chronic respiratory issues growing up

    But thats not really the reason why I think this is okay.

    I think its okay because it is government property and they can do what they want with their property. I've never lived in a rental property where smoking was allowed. No big deal, not my property
     
  13. Luna Lovesong

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    then that's what you say. I have never been allowed to smoke in a rental either. and that logic I can agree with. it is the other reasons being given that frustrate me
    I personally would not smoke inside just because I don't like the smell on my clean clothes or the yellow on my paint, but its not anyone else's job to decide "for the kids"
     
  14. Piney

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    wondering if the prohibition extends to weed?
     
  15. Luna Lovesong

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    ^^ always has
     
  16. GLENGLEN

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    The poor make up half of all smokers in the country




    Methinks One Of The Reasons They Are Poor Is Because They Are Chain Smoking And

    Spending Up To $20-00 Per A Pack...(aus)...... ;)



    Cheers Glen.
     
  17. Luna Lovesong

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    I do not spend that much on cigarettes. I roll my own and smoke pipe tobacco. it costs my husband and I around 120 or $60 a paycheck for us both to smoke a pack plus a day. the going rate of smokes in CO is about 6 bucks a pack so that would get us a half a pack to split each day if we did it that way, or put another way it would cost us around 15 or so a day averaged out for us to smoke a pack plus each. 15x30=450

    sooo I save 3960 annually rolling them myself
    and only spend 1440 annually. I think I can afford to smoke even I am somewhat poor considering
    that's barely a months rent in a place that can actually accommodate my family
    I spend more in gas monthly than I do cigarettes crap I spend more in gas bi-weekly than I do in a whole month of smoking

    also, I like smoking and its my prerogative, if it was legal to grow tobacco I would, that would decrease cost even more



    some people spend way too much on smoking, I can agree with that, but I don't agree it is the reason that they are poor. many poor people wouldn't be actually helped by the extra 2-300 monthly, as it still wouldn't provide everything they needed. it would literally just go to paying down a different bill that will never be caught up on, and if you cant ever pay those bills down, then you cant ever have a good credit score so saving the money would be pointless because no one is going to give them a home loan or a place to live with shit credit. being poor is a vicious cycle and it takes a string of really good luck to get out of. working hard and saving is no longer a dream in the US and it hasn't been in a long time.

    Also, when they determine if you are eligible for low income or government housing they look at your entire income, before taxes, (at least in CO) and make a decision. these people are poor enough to qualify based on income, that means that they are poor if they buy cigarettes or not and maybe just maybe a smoke in the morning is the only thing that gets them out of bed for another day of the stress and difficulties innate in being poor

    poor people are poor because of income, or lack thereof. period.




    whew okay rant over. few things get under my skin the way shaming poverty does
     
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    When are they gonna get around to compulsory exercise and diets for fat parents?
     

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