Sleepless nights

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Sleeping Caterpillar, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    I just started a new job and I have a hard week in front of me. I have 5 shifts starting at 5 in the morning, and I'm a walking definition of a night owl, I already came in 4 hours late today because I simply can't wake up at that time!

    I'm debating right now, which is better:
    Getting 3-4 hours of sleep?
    Or
    Staying up all night and likely falling asleep after the next shift?

    Once I get moving its hard to fall down and as luck has it, my employer has it noted that I will work only afternoon shifts from next week forward. So I'm really looking for any advice to survive this week

    I've already tried sleeping pills and melatonin supplements
    ---Updated -v
    For tonight I will find it easier to stay up honestly. staying up 14 more hours vs fighting to sleep and fighting harder to wake up is an easy decision. But I would like to hear advice for falling asleep the upcoming days. I like the idea of adding the melatonin with the magnesium supplement. I'll try that tomorrow
     
  2. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    Lol I went thru this recently when I went back to work. Deviate could tell you.

    Try Unisom and take 2 an hour before you want to sleep. That will help.

    Staying up all night won't help, you have to break the habit.
    Also, stop drinking caffeine one day. Caffeine keeps me wired even when I'm very tired.
    Don't lay in bed with the TV or music on. That keeps your mind occupied when it really just needs to drift to sleep.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Try supplementing a good magnesium supplement with the melatonin (I recommend Natural Calm). Also, try using some raw honey if you have it.

    Also, no television or computer 2 hours before bed seems to help.
     
  4. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    4 hours late in your first week? Lol! You are worse than me. Honestly I'm surprised you still have a job.
     
  5. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    lol well trust me I've tried no caffeine, no light/electronics. But i just end up laying down for 4-6 hours thinking about nothing..

    I even have to go in tomorrow (or this morning depending on your time zone) and just can't fall asleep, i logged everything off at 7pm, it is now 11pm and I'm wide awake
     
  6. Jo King

    Jo King wannabe

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    wow four hours late and you still have a job.
    Sleep is always better than no sleep. But you have to be responsible and get up.

    Get off of here go to bed and relax, slow your brain down and do what you have to do.
     
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    feels like I smoked a 7gram rock for the last 20days straight..
     
  8. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    Thanks, that's an idea I wouldn't have thought of. :2thumbsup: Unfortunately I do live in the city, so it won't work immediately. But once I have a couple of days off I can go camping in the mountains. :)
     
  9. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Happily suggests against it, but it depends on what your problem that makes you not be able to go to sleep early. Some people like me have circadian rhythm disorders where our brains treat the day as if it were 28 hours instead of 24. A persons body with a disorder like this will not think any schedule feels "natural", and their schedule will want to continuously drif over time and occasionally it gets so fucked up that the only way to fix it is to not sleep one night which will allow them to go to sleep when they should the next.
     
  10. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    Omg, that speaks to me as well as many people I know like no other. I actually thought about thinking that some people don't fit into a 24 hour time zone. Because that's just it, I swear if the day were like 30 hours I'd find it much easier 20 awake 10 asleep.

    Do you know of any articles or anything about this?
     
  11. AceK

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    http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/delayed.html

    http://www.end-your-sleep-deprivation.com/delayed-sleep-phase-syndrome.html

    Circadian rhythm disorders are a real thing. One thing I've noticed is that if I go to bed late I need less sleep, but I'll still sleep in too much cuz I went to bed so late. If I try to go to sleep early so I can get up when I'm supposed to 2 things happen. First I will be very frustrating laying in bed trying to sleep, I've laid in bed for over 5 hours before trying to sleep and end up falling asleep right before I'm supposed to "get up". The other thing is, it seems no matter how early I go to bed, I feel like shit when I wake up unless I sleep to the time that my brain thinks I'm supposed to get up, which would be basically the same as if I'd just stayed up in the first place.

    Occasionally I have actually found myself on a 2 phase sleep cycle when trying to recover my schedule by pulling an all nighter, I actually can't sleep as long as I should so I wake up at a strange time but then have to sleep again within the same 24hr period which usually screws up my schedule again. Sometimes I'll pull an all nighter and go to sleep at 7 or 8 pm but can't sleep past 1am. After pulling an all nighter it can be hard not to fall asleep at first but the later it gets the easier it is. It is very difficult not to fall asleep before something like 5pm, but once I get past that it's actually pretty difficult to fall asleep at that point before the a.m.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9WcUt-t0k"]The Doors - Ghost Song - YouTube
    Awake.
    Shake dreams from your hair
    my pretty child, my sweet one.
    Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
    the day's divinity
    First thing you see.
     
  14. I'minmyunderwear

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    that was my first thought too.

    just get little or no sleep the first night, go to work on time, and then you should be so exhausted by the time night comes around, going to sleep early shouldn't be a problem.


    also of note: a thread titled "sleepless nights" by a poster named "sleeping caterpillar."
     

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