shrooms vs ACID (for people that have tried both)

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you completely missed my point. im not comparing people to drugs, im trying to explain how i view the whole acid VS. shrooms stupid argument.

try to understand this; im saying that acid is like woman #1, shrooms is woman #2. They are both women (hallucinagens), but they both have different characteristics, traits, etc. Your "position" example might work for shrooms in that there are different species of magic mushrooms, but thats about it. i really hope u see the difference

 

I understand what you are saying, but personally I think trying to compare a person to a drug is not very good or accurate. I (and we as a whole) will personify drugs with names like 'lucy' or 'molly' but really LSD and mushrooms don't have characteristics or traits. They alter brain chemistry and bring out or amplify characteristics of the individuals, so really the experience is you more than it is others. That's why I think 'tripping' is more comparable to 'fucking,' than a different person.

if you take just LSD, you can have vastly different experiences doing it indoor by yourself as compared to a packed concert/festival. LSD trips especially sometimes have felt more different from each other than LSD to mushrooms. A person's traits remain relatively stable.

In regards to different mushrooms, unless you're talking about amanitas, i would still say it's all missonary or same position or whatever just switching up the speed and motion .

 

LSD = lysergic acid dediethylamide / shrooms = psilocybin

 

^ i'm well aware. Even the same batch of LSD or mushrooms can have very different effects in different enviornments is what i'm saying.

 

Lets see, I've taken acid 4 times, each time wonderful, but incredibly different. Mushrooms I've also done 4 times and with both cases, my lower dosed trips had a huge aspect of anxiety and even fear in them, but when I had an 8th, I was having an incredible time, and I loved the 5 grams I ate not too long ago.

Mushrooms are fun when you eat a lot of them, but in small doses, I always have a strange headspace. LSD is bomb though, for sure my pick over mushrooms. Nothing against mushrooms, they just don't have that special something.

And as for how to compare the two, I've always liked the analogy that I heard from here a while ago that said it was like taking the same vacation but with a different friend.

 

blaaaah.


if i could choose, i'd choose...


i can't even choose.


it doesn't matter actually its irrelevant.


if you are able to get either consider yourself fortunate, and get as much as you can get your hands on.

 

well, ive done shrooms at least fifteen times.. once i did 12 caps at once. so im fairly experienced when it comes to psilocybin..
acid ive only done once.
overall i like acid better. its a stronger, more intense feeling.
shrooms are much more mellow.. but it also depends on the potency.
it seems you're much less likely to have a bad trip on shrooms. they're all natural. you can't overdose unless you have a shit ton on them. and out of all my shroom trips, i've only had one partially bad trip.. when i ate too many. lol.
the one time i did acid, though, was life changing. it opened my eyes to a whole new world. i highly suggest acid.. but i also highly suggest shrooms..
hehe, just do em both if you can

 

IDK about impurities being psychoactive at the microgram level. At least not from LSD synthesis. and btw LSA is NOT a byproduct of LSD synthesis (I saw someone else try to say that in another location on this forum when this topic was discussed).

 

as far as i know, lsa is generally produecd BEFORE the synthesis of lsd.
its a foreproduct you usually use in the making of lsd.
lsa is generally extracted from plants such as morning glory, or fungus (ergot).

 

acids more gentle. much easier to control imo

 

Actually LSD is generally NOT synthesized from LSA EVER. This is because no one has come up with an effective method to convert lsa into lsd. I checked a large amount of forums and all I've found are proposed methods of a conversion none of them are confirmed. Typically I believe LSD synthesis uses ergotamine tartrate from the ergot fungus, which grows on the wheat plant. It does not use LSA from the wheat plant. Also, no where in the synthesis does the amide appear (LSA).

No I am not a chemistry expert, but I do a fair amount of research and do not find it plausible that LSA is going to be present in an LSD synthesis.

Here's the synthesis method listed in TiHKAL http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml

 

oh ha, well yeah, that.
idk much aboutt he synthesis of lsd, my understanding of it musta just been completely wrong.
sorry. haha.

 

Lsd and Psilocybin are totally different trips. NEVER underestimate the power Psilocybin it may be a weaker compound to LSD but imo it fucks with your head ALOT more that lsd if you take too many,
with my experiences on shrooms i will see more patterns and shapes in your vision, things become very detailed and stand out alot, you feel a very strong connection to mother nature and your mind is a little more scrambled i will se things stretch flutter ect

. With my experiences on lsd i will feel totally amazing and euphoric, things tend to breath, if you have a good dose it will be more colorful and energetic, for example ill see rainbow colors running up the walls, down power cables, also i seem to be able to see sounds and vibrations. they are very similar in ways but also totally 100% different

 

LSD > Shrooms

4-aco-dmt is dope but still not as good as lucy


and alot of the 2c-X compounds

 

a big difference that I didn't see anyone mention yet is the duration of the effects. Obviously it depends on the dosage but when I've taken acid it has lasted from 8-16 hours and the after effects have lasted for weeks sometimes. With shrooms it's always been about 4-8 hours and maybe feeling slightly odd the next day.

 

I find this thread quite interesting!

I started out with LSD in terms of psychedelics... tripped 3 times and didn't really like it any of the times (years between trips, I thought maybe it had to do with my mental space at the time, but it didn't seem to) - it felt too "chemical" of a trip when compared to mushrooms.

After the third trip that was not a BAD trip but just not really all that enjoyable (it made me want to lay down and close my eyes and do nothing but watch the show, which I felt was a waste of time - mushrooms I tend to get a bit claustrophobic which makes me go outside and enjoy nature), I decided that acid wasn't for me, and since then I've only used mushrooms.

When people talk about the mindfuck of mushrooms when compared to acid, I'm always curious - what kind of trip preparation did they engage in? Did they make sure they had fun music queued up for playing in case their mind wandered to somewhere too dark, and they wanted to get back to happy? How were they thinking the days before the trip?

I find that my mushroom trips are the absolute best now that I understand how my emotions are magnified while under the influence. I make a pact with myself or whoever I'm tripping with to acknowledge that fact about emotional magnification, and therefore focus on good-feeling thoughts instead of just letting my mind wander where it may. Music is really key for snapping one out of bad thoughts if you're not good at turning your thoughts around by habit.

*shrug*

It could also be me telling myself that heading out into the black market sucks since most of the dealers are half my age now and look at me like I'm a narc. I have a friend who grew some mushies so that's in abundant supply at least.

One day I'll test out acid again and see if it is better than those initial 3 trips over 5-6 years that I went on in my early 20s.

Thanks for the thoughts!

Mycelian

 

I'll almost always choose acid over shrooms when I'm making the decision.

I have a few friends who no longer do acid (some weird conception of what is natural...) so I will do shrooms with them. I suppose if I was limited on time I'd do shrooms, but this hasn't happened...I'm in for a sleepless night and tired the next day either way. (Just the other day a friend of mine wanted to drive a half hour to get shrooms so he could get up and work the next day...I talked him into taking the acid instead.)

Shrooms are so much more un-predictable. I even grind batches of shrooms to make them less obvious and to homogenize it (make it so it's all the same potency.) Still, though, different times produce much different effects with the exact same amount.

Sure there's been times where the same acid on different days felt totally different, but in general, it seems much more predictable to me.

I've had some great times on shrooms, but when I have acid, the shrooms just stay in the freezer until they are needed.

Acid seems like the purest, most natural feeling, energizing psychedelic that I've even had...except maybe DMT, but that's a different story all together.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I've never had nausea or cramps or anything like that on acid (I know some say they do). Shrooms can definitely give me a tight stomach towards the end and I've seen them make friends sick for hours.

 

Hmm; what a coincidence, I'm on shrooms as we speak.

In my own opinion, I feel that LSD and psilocybin are both extremely important spiritual substances and shouldn't be compared.

Though I admit that I'd prefer LSD over psilocybin any day. Psilocybin is more of a spiritual and calming type of trip; it's like the worst things can happen and I could never get mad. Just staying relaxed and cool with everything the whole trip with slow and easy visuals.

LSD to me is a chemical you completely find yourself on. Every touch, sense, emotion, smell, and taste seems to be magnified x1000. The feeling for me is this light, magical, happy type of high that guides you through the trip. It's like a giant orgasm for your soul; feeding and feeding you positive vibes until fully satisfied. Sex feels like the greatest thing in the universe, and laughter is a must. When walking, every step taken is a big burst of wonder and happiness. Looking down at your feet while walking and watching your foot melt deeper into the ground as you step is just plain incredible. Also, everything gets so interesting. Example; I could show the average sober man a flower. What would he say? ''Who cares''. Am I right? If I show a man on LSD the flower, he'll take it in his hand and examine it closely. It's like there's no such thing as being bored when you're on LSD(for me, at least).

I love shrooms, but LSD is just stuck in my heart forever.

 

I prefer Psilocybe Mushrooms by far over acid. It is much friendlier to me. I've never had a "bad trip" on shrooms, and they are easier to find than acid. LSD is something I feel everyone should experience due to its reflective qualities, but shrooms are where it's at in my opinion.

 

Had my first shroom trip last night.

I'll say this. Acid seems much easier to handle.