Should we completely ditch the straight label?

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  1. Noonecares21

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    Especially in the case of men.

    You always hear about how half of straight men occassionally hooks up with the same sex because of desperation or frustration. You always hear stories about gay men seducing straight men who have wives and kids. Also a majority of straight men who had sex with men said it was their best sexual experience. And then there's this group of people that says sexuality doesn't depend on sexual acts.

    I noticed that people on various lgbt forums already hold the same opinion as me. That male heterosexuality doesn't actually exist (or at least if we define heterosexuality as not having ANY sexual experiences with the same sex).
    So should we ditch the straight label, at least when it comes to men?
    I am not trying to be hateful but people admit it themselves that they've seen a lot of straight men having gay sex.
     
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  2. Romper

    Romper Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Never done it and never will. I think your premise is faulty.
     
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  3. Noonecares21

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    I am not trying to make a propaganda by any means, but haven't you considered it's because of society's standards? You know, men doing anything with another man is considered gay
     
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    I don't think you realise that some men are straight up REPULSED by the thought of being with another man, for some that'll always be the case
     
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  5. Andy Schumer

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    Keep the label, not all men meet same sex
    I rather use my hands, or the occasional girl in the absence of a fwb
     
  6. Romper

    Romper Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Nope, never even considered it. It doesn't appeal to me in the least.
     
  7. buzzgunner

    buzzgunner 180 grains of diplomacy Lifetime Supporter

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    What he said.
     
  8. anythingonce

    anythingonce You Can Trust Me

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    I wouldn’t call myself homophobic, simply because a phobia is a fear, and I have no fear. It’s just the idea of being with another guy is so revolting to me that I can’t even stand being around gays. To me it is just completely and totally biologically disgusting. That’s my opinion. I know others here have their own feelings and opinions, but we’re all here and the regularly contributing members all get along with differing opinions. That’s what make HipForums great.
     
  9. lion1978

    lion1978 The King

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    I don't think we should ditch it, as there are men who has never had sex with another man, but I do understand where you are comming from, and I can surely confirm (as a bisexual man)that there is a ton of "straight" men who enjoy sex with other men, both those who are single and those who are in a relationship.
     
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  10. NubbinsUp

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    Ditch any label you want, but men are hard-wired in their sexual preferences regarding partners from a much earlier age than women are, on average. Women tend to be much more fluid and maleable in their sexual preferences and orientation than men are, and far more open to same-sex sexual encounters.

    About 70 percent of human males are exclusively straight/heterosexual by puberty and they remain so for life, not zero percent as you posit.

    If you don't like the term "straight," don't use it.
     
  11. iamjustme

    iamjustme Wishful thinker HipForums Supporter

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    I believe I fit the pattern of many-many men.
    I am straight. That is, the very thought of romantic engagement with another guy is repulsive. Kissing one... hell no. Holding hands...ugh.
    Any kind of romance, love is so off the table it isn't even in the same universe of possibility.
    All through my 20s - 40s.. totally and completely straight. All the porn I looked at.... straight... okay a few times looked at shemales...
    But then came my 50s. By this time porn is just boring. Boring. At the age of 50 I just getting divorced from a sexless marriage of well over 10 years. No sex.
    Jerking off was my sex.
    I found myself looking at passable shemales. Can't in any way look like a dude.
    After looking at numerous ones, I figure I could do some things with a shemale... a really passable one.
    Gay?
     
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  12. Andy Schumer

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    Curious.
    To what extent? Yours to decide.
    Many men without sex end up doing it with men, for the sake of having sex. I know from the multiple answers to my posts looking for a fwb. Men offering to meet.
     
  13. iamjustme

    iamjustme Wishful thinker HipForums Supporter

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    No one under 50 can say what they will or won't do.
    When men pass the half century mark things change. Our desires don't diminish like most women's do. We still get as horny as ever. And many - MANY - marriages are either sexless or near sexless.
    Jerking off to porn gets boring after years of doing it. Really boring. So... now what?
    For me it was mutual masturbating in cam rooms. Didn't take long to figure out males outnumber females literally 5000 to 1 (disregarding models seeking $$$)
    I found I liked anyone to watch me, and see others jerking off to.
    Doesn't make me gay. And trust me, 20 years ago... I would NEVER have thought in a 1000 years I would do this.
     
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  15. Lulu91

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    First of all Y I K E S @ some of the replies here. Of course this forum also tosses the word “shemale” around so it’s a hot minute behind the curve where gender and sexuality are concerned. I see where you’re coming from as a bi woman, but the I’m pretty sure the term you’re looking for (heteroflexible) already exists and I really don’t think it’s worth quibbling over the straight label all the way down the Kinsey scale.

    Let them cling to the straight label if they must.
     
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  16. Lulu91

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    This is one of those “your own opinion but not your own facts” situations. I know plenty of men with no sexual interest in men (or any masculine folks) who are not “repulsed” by gay behavior but can calmly navigate shows/parties/orgies where it’s almost a certainty they will some sort of guy/guy without requiring someone follow behind with a fainting couch or a barf bag.
     
  17. Biodome1980

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    I feel like the straight label should be ditched. Imo all guys are somewhat bisexual. Just depends on opportunity and how long it's been since they have had sex. Then again, I was totally ok with experimenting as a young adult with other guys. A lot of ppl go, "Ew sex with a guy?" Until they get their dick sucked by one. That changes them all
     
  18. Daretobare

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    I'm more inclined anymore to think we should drop the Gay label. I think you'll find more straight and bisexual than strickly gay anymore. But just my opinion.
     
  19. undefeated41

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    I think some guys are just bi. Thats all.
     
  20. Lulu91

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    I don’t take issue with preference. If one’s preference is strictly for cis folks of the opposite sex, that’s completely fine. I just do not understand the disgust. The disgust is purely a function of heteronormativity and can surely be deconstructed. While bisexual, I’ll confess that seeing cis men fuck doesn’t get me wet but I’m not bothered and it isn’t a reset button if I’m already aroused.

    It’s just sex.
     

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