Should the whistleblower be exposed?

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  1. Visexual

    Visexual Member

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    Trump thinks so. But then, how can he get even if he doesn't know who to get even with? And, if this person hadn't started the whole thing, Trump may never have been caught. It just wasn't fair to Trump!

    And, you know what, the Witness Protection Agency of the Justice Department, should be required to post the addresses of their protectees on their website. It's just not right that these rats can't be found, and dealt with, by the mobsters they ratted on.

    It shouldn't be about what you did, it should be about your right not to get caught when someone rats on you!
     
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  2. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Donald Duck has a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card, and the idea that he even deserves that is absurd. Fuck him, if he can get away with molesting women all over the world and even committing treason, the last thing anyone owes him is the right to face his accusers. Only people that can actually go to jail have legal rights, which are for the rest of us poor slobs.

    Whistleblowers that have legal rights and no protection from predators who are above the law, are called fish-food.
     
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  3. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    NO
     
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  4. Okiefreak

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    The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9), Pub.L. 101-12 as amended, passed Congress with bipartisan backing. Republican Senator Chuck Grassley, chairman and co-founder of the Senate Whistleblower Protection Caucus co-author of many of the nation’s whistleblower protection laws, thinks we "should always work to respect whistleblowers’ requests for confidentiality". I the case of the whistle blower on Trump's extortion of the Ukrainian President, the identity of the whistle blower is irrelevant to the well-corroborated fact that the extortion took place, and Republican efforts to unmask him is an obvious effort to chill further disclosures of wrongdoing by the President.
     
  5. So far he doesn't seem so "caught". How many years has this been going on with nothing more than innuendo and rumors driving it?

    Like it or not, facing your accuser is not something Trump just dreamed up to cheese off democrats. It goes back to the Magna Carta, like many freedoms we take for granted these days. Also we don't see any bodies yet. By this time Clinton already had lots of them, even before he was president. So far Trump hasn't so much as FedEx'd a sack of dog shit to anybody.

    It's damned perplexing!
     
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  6. Probably not. But hey it would be interesting if the Whistleblower was a key witness in the impeachment investigation
     
  7. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Its not a damned trial, and Donald Duck might as well complain that his skin burns in direct sunlight. He is either a public servant, or he's fucking got to move out of the white house immediately. If he's afraid the sky is falling, he's right. Only the mindless mob that elected him believes for one second that he is the future emperor and untouchable. Alabama has forbidden booing him in their state university football stadium, so I'm eager to see what the football players do. No doubt, many of them are black. Donald Duck will either learn the meaning of public servant, or be served up to his peers for judgement.
     
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    Eric Cartmanila..
     
  9. tumbling.dice

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    I'm not sure how it works with impeachment. If criminal charges were ever leveled at Trump it seems the wistleblower would have to come forward though. A defendant has the right to face his accusers.
     
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  10. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The only time Donald Duck has the right to face his accuser, if he is actually being prosecuted and could end up in jail. His mindless mob doesn't recognize the distinction, because rule of law is not popular in professional wrestling. Congress can fire the bum at any time with a vote of no confidence, he is not our glorious leader, he is not our emperor, and he is either a public servant that can be held accountable by his peers or he is dead fucking meat.

    Me, I need more butter for my popcorn, the Three Stooges losing their tempers and threatening civil war is classic.
     
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  11. Of COURSE it's a trial. He's been on trial since 19 minutes after he took the oath. Years ago!

    Really though, IF the guy is actually a witness, then of course he should be sequestered. But nobody did that and his identity was leaked out directly. Even though he's been lurking around the white house since the Obama administration. Surely he has no personal agenda here. Naaaa, couldn't happen.

    It's yet another planned distraction and it's working perfectly.
     
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  12. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    A public servant that cannot be held accountable is called a tyrant. This wannabe tyrant is so fucking insane he thinks he can change the path of a hurricane, while those who defend him don't know the meaning of honesty and integrity. There is no sewer dirty enough to keep them from diving in head first. If they don't approve of the government, they should vote the bums out of office that they already vote in. If you want professional wrestling for a government, then push for the right of the public to be allowed to call in their votes on any issue.
     
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    Fascinating fantasy ...
     
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  14. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Imagine the American government run by everybody voting on Twitter. Americans share their toilets, in the EU they often charge $5.oo and call them dirty commies.
     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Whistleblower complaints are registered via a special secure channel designated for that purpose.
    The message can be anonymous or signed.
    He or she then receives an ID number and a password.This is used for further communications. Everything is encrypted, no isps are recorded and anonymity is guaranteed by law.

    It's then reviewed by the Merit Systems Protection Board made up of previously appointed administrative law judges who then send a follow-up if needed.
    They then accept or decline the message.
    If accepted they appoint a case manager.

    Then an investigation is started if warranted.
    No one is convicted of any crime based merely on the whistleblowers complaint alone.

    At the close of the case all recorded information may be deleted if all team members agree.

    As the whistleblower only initiates an investigation there is never any need to disclose the identity of the whistleblower.
    In Trump's case there is so much hard evidence and first, second, and third hand witness testimony, not to mention Rudy and Trump's own admission, the whistleblower is immaterial at this time. All the whislteblower did is start the ball rolling.

    Trump will have plenty of time to face the numerous accusers, witnesses, and hard evidence against him.
    Here's a partial list of those folks:
    Mick Mulvaney
    Bill Taylor,
    Mike Pence,
    Rudy Giuliani,
    Volodymyr Zelensky,
    Dmytry Firtash,
    Kashyap Patel,
    Mike Pompeo,
    Tim Morrison,
    Keith Kellogg,
    Rob Blair,
    Alexander Vindman,
    Andriy Yermak,
    Serhiy Leshchenko,
    Marie Yovanovitch,
    at least four unnamed national security officials,
    John Eisenberg,
    Yuri Lutsenko,
    Gordon Sondland,
    John Eisenberg,
    Michael Duffey,
    Michael Atkinson,
    Joseph Maguire,
    Courtney Simmons Elwood,
    Andriy Bohdan,
    Ivan Bakanov,
    T. Ulrich Brechbuhl,
    William Barr,
    Joe Hockey,
    Alexander Downer,
    George Papadopoulos,
    Anthony Albanese,
    Fiona Hill,
    George Kent,
    Michael McKinley,
    William Taylor,
    Kurt Volker,
    Laura Cooper,
    Philip Reeker,
    Lev Parnas,
    Igor Fruman,
    and Rick Perry.

    And these are just the ones I know about, did I miss anyone?
     
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    Imagine getting more oxygen..
     
  18. Imagine if all of these people were brought in as key witnesses to Trump's impeachment trial.
    They would have a lot of gossip about Trump.
     
  19. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    On capital hill, they only sell hot air.
     
  20. I'd agree if they actually went after shit he did. Instead they're making shit up and going after that. It makes no sense.
     

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