Should the House bring Impeachment charges against Donald Trump?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by MeAgain, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Are you really suggesting the republican party has no non-white members?
     
  2. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    I am seriously suggesting that if they were any more white they would make an albino look dark. They have a few people of color they pay to spout rhetoric, but the idea the republican party actually represents America belies the fact it is illegal to vote for Mickey Mouse. They are courting the Latino vote, at the same time they are throwing them over the border, and courting the black vote, at the same time they kill blacks and put them in prison at seven times the rates of whites, and courting the Asian vote, while imposing tariffs on China and comparing the Japanese to ants. Conservatives are known for their kinky sex, televangelists, etc.

    Since your votes no longer matter, they have to entertain the mindless masses. Keep the idiots distracted from the fact they can already replace millions of federal workers, teachers, etc. with computers. You too can be replaced with a cheap microprocessor, right after we get rid of the rest of the idiots.
     
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  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I musta been watching a different hearing.

    Mueller confirmed that Trump attempted to obstructed justice, at the least, multiple times; which is a crime(s). And he confirmed that he couldn't indict him because he's a sitting president....and he confirmed that Trump can be tried for the above when he leaves office.

    I have no idea what your "innocent until proven guilty remark is about...that's what indictments are for, to determine guilt.
     
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  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You would impeach a president for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".[3]

    The state of the economy is immaterial.
     
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  5. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Indictments are merely about determining whether or not it should go to court. If someone accuses you of spitting on the sidewalk, that's an indictment that the judge will throw out before it ever gets anywhere near a courtroom.
     
  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Correct, Mueller couldn't indict Trump, to go to trail, to determine guilt.

     
  7. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    No chance of conviction in the Senate, so why bother impeaching him? Focus instead on defeating him in 2020.
     
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  8. And here I thought indictments were for bringing charges. Regardless, this has been a useless endeavor and continuing to waste energy on it will cost the election in 2020. Better get used to Trump, because democrats can't possibly admit they have been bamboozled. Assuming Trump is "stupid", is stupid.
     
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  9. Exactly. How many ways can democrats beat a dead horse?

    I know. They should play the race card!!!! Again. Americans just LOVE being called racists en masse .
     
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  10. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    Exactly. My one Democrat friend, a white guy, is still focused on white privilege. Another, a gender male, is still worried about transgender issues. You know, stuff average Americans give a shit about.
     
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  11. This is what Mew-ler said. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu, who said, and I quote, 'you didn’t charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it."

    His whole delivery was full of odd and confusing stuff like that, when he wasn't asking for repeated questions and other tactics for running out the clock. Reminds me of GHW Bush looking at his watch while debating Bill Clinton.
     
  12. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    They have to pretend there is actually somebody in charge once in a great while, and that money doesn't do all the driving for everybody. Whether Donald Duck is impeached or not doesn't matter, except as part of the show, and that depends on their ratings. Right now, I'd have to say The Duck is stealing the show.
     
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Mueller didn't determine that Trump committed a crime, that is what a trial is for. He did determine that if anyone else other than a sitting president had committed the actions that Trump did, they would have been indicted by him (Mueller) and brought to trial to determine if they had broken the law. That's what Mueller did in relation to the actions of eight of Trump's associates who were all convicted of crimes in relation to Trump's election. (George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, Richard Pinedo, Alex van der Zwaan, Michael Cohen, and Sam Patten).

    Mueller didn't bring an indictment against Trump because he couldn't accuse him of committing a crime because he couldn't indict him (which is a formal accusation) because Trump couldn't be brought to trial because according to the DOJ you can't accuse a sitting president of committing a crime as they can't be brought to trial and therefore can't defend themselves..
    According to the DOJ, a sitting president can do anything he or she wants and the DOJ cannot indict them. A sitting president, according to the DOJ is above the law...that's what Mueller said.
    Mueller then outlined numerous times that Trump lied to the FBI, attempted to obstruct justice (which is a crime, the attempt alone), etc.

    Mueller said Trump can be brought to trial by the DOJ after he leaves office.

    Your defense of Trump revolves around character attacks against Mew-ler.
     
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  14. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Isn't it Mull-er? I know the original German was Müller, which would probably be rendered more like Miller. Can't always go by that though. Dubois. PA is pronounced Doo-Boyz, not the Frenchy Doo-Bwa. And Prague, OK is Pray-gue, not the Czechy Prah-gue. Most commentators say Mull-er, which I think is how he pronounces it himself. But since this is written communication, why don't you just write Mueller, which is how the name is spelled? Is there some point you're trying to make?
     
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  15. Ralez01

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    Well, I don't think Libertarians are idiots as they just want something else than the left/right is offering, the main thing for me is not who is the President, but rather what he's doing, I was not expecting this one to be so successful and after all, he does what I was wishing every president to do before, and until now, he is the only one who knows what management means, so, I'm ready to have him four more years, just to give him the chance to achieve what he started.
     
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  16. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    And what is that? Divide the country with nasty tweets? Kiss the asses of foreign dictators like Putin and Kim, insult our NATO allies? Staff the swamp with alligators? Gut environmental protection? Pack the courts with unqualified stooges? Tarnish the dignity of his office with foul language and ignorance of fundamental facts of history? Put kids in cages? You overestimate his control over the economy, which could head south with his next trade war.
     
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    And what do you wish every president before Trump did?
    Lie continuously, piss off our allies, insult everyone who has a different opinion than he does, attempt to obstruct justice, screw a porn star just after his wife had a baby and then use his riches to keep her silent, promote racism, say he's going to lock up his political opponents, violate the emoluments clause, fire the FBI director for not pledging loyalty to him, give away state secrets to the Russians, deny climate change, withdrawal from an agreement with the Iranians who were upholding their end of the bargain, praise dictators, etc.

    And management? Lol. What happened to Trump University (hint fraud), Trump Airlines (hint after 30 years of operation it went bankrupt after 3 years of Trump management), Trump Vodka (bankrupt), Trump Magazine (bankrupt), Trump Steaks (bankrupt), Trump Mortgage (bankrupt), Trump Casinos (bankrupt, all three of them), Trump: The game (failed), GoTrump.com, (It went within a year), Trump Ice (failed in distribution), The New Jersey Generals football team (not only failed but may have brought down the entire United States Football League), Tour de Trump (forced to sell to DuPont due to poor management, they quickly changed the name), Trump on the Ocean (failed to get approval), The Trump Network (found to be a vitamin products scam and sold, Trump's name removed), Trumped! (failed radio show), and Trump New Media (high speed internet...never happened). Piss poor record of management if you ask me.

    More about his presidency,....the national debt? It's gone up by $2 Trillion dollars under Trump!
    Clinton's not locked up, wall not even started, travel ban rejected, Obamacare not replaced, tax breaks...for the rich, lower drug cost? Hasn't happened. Immigration? Total disaster. Largest government shutdown in history, the income gap has increased, environmental protections have been gutted, North Korea has atomic missiles, Jamal Khashoggi's killers still at large, 8 governmental associates in jail, etc. etc., etc. I'm getting tired of listing all his "successful" management accomplishments.
     
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  18. Tyrsonswood

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    I think his base calls this "winning" or someshyt...
     
  19. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    This statement shows you don't really understand ecomincs. America is not doing anything now that for example it has not done under left presidents such as Clinton or Obama and the growth now is not sustainable. It's more than the economy that makes a leader as well. He did not create the current economy as you think he did and fails in other areas which matter.

    We can impeach for any 1 of the dozens of criminal offense that warrant it. It happening is another issue.
     
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  20. Ralez01

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    Post like yours are just from blinded leftist, Economic experts and businesses thriving show well where is the reality of it, but hate for this President make everything he does wrong, obviously this is not the opinion of a majority of Americans. Impeachment won't go far, just like all the rest against him that went like a rock in the water...
     
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