Should the death penalty ever be used?

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  1. DrRainbow

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  2. DrRainbow

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    We have no right to bother the Martians with this.
     
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  3. Vladimir Illich

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    There's a far more recent example - Russia on 25th October 1917 !!!
     
  4. granite45

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    The argument for unrestrained gun ownership in America is absurd. The gun-nut arguments are wrong on so many levels and adorned with absolute lies. I was going to refute all those crazy ideas but decided to save my energy. Arguing with insanity is not very productive.
     
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    This is probably your best post on HF.
     
  6. wrat1

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    Yes,
    John Wayne Gacy deserved to die
    as do others like him
    If only it did not cost so much to actually go through with an execution
     
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    We had an expression in the car business that's similar. "You can't argue with ignorance".
     
  8. Piobaire

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    Yes.
    From a legalistic standpoint:
    It's a violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which I wholeheartedly support.

    From a moral standpoint:
    'When threatened, all beings fear for their lives; life is precious to all. Therefore, putting ourselves in the place of another, we do not kill, nor cause others to kill.' (Dhammapada 130)
    We have repeatedly and conclusively demonstrated that we as a species are wholly incapable of administering the death penalty equitably; free of racial, ethnic, religious, and other bias.

    From a philosophical standpoint:
    It assumes that the convicted is static and unchanging, when all phenomena are dynamic and constantly changing. Who you are executing is not the same person who committed the crime.
    Someone who has been disarmed, subdued, shackled, and imprisoned does not represent an existential threat. Killing the defenseless is murder, regardless of the imprimatur of the State.

    From a practical standpoint:
    We can never fully eliminate the possibility that we will murder an innocent person who's been wrongfully convicted.
    There is no deterrent effect. The death penalty has been shown to have no measurable effect on crime.

    From an economic standpoint:
    In the U.S., administering the death penalty costs more than incarceration.
     
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  9. Piobaire

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  10. hotwater

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    Well because this might happen...............

     
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  12. DrRainbow

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    I never saw that coming. lol
     
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  13. Tman58

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    If you're going to take someone's life you better be willing to forfeit your own. Like my mom used to say, if you're gonna dish it out, you better be ready to take.
     
  14. scratcho

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    Sure--kidnapping, torturing, fucking a little kid , strangling her/him afterwards and dumping her/his body somewhere is just fine. I say let them live so that they can enjoy prison life with the drugs, food , medical care for 30--40 years is the proper thing to do. The parents will get over their loss--they just have to toughen up.


    Edit: If anyone harmed my children or grandchildren in the way some of these psychos do--my job--MY ONLY JOB IN LIFE THEREAFTER---would be to find and kill the motherfucker. I swear this to be true.
     
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  15. soulcompromise

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    I think that penalty of death only sort of works as a deterrent. Though grotesque, if we're going to do that maybe there ought to be emphasis on it; in school & on television.

    Whatever we're doing now doesn't seem to be working very effectively.
     
  16. soulcompromise

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    Yeah.. send them to Australia! Dammit!!! ;)

    Or you could just castrate them and then ask them if it was worth it.
     
  17. Piobaire

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    A tooth for a tooth
    And an eye for an eye
    Will soon leave us all
    Both toothless and blind
     
  18. Tman58

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    And everyone including the parents of the victims are paying taxes to keep that scum alive.
     
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  19. scratcho

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    To be executed:A man in Louisiana tortured, mentally abused, sexually abused and beat to death his two year old daughter to DEATH!!!!! Tell me this sub human piece of shit deserves to live!!!!!!!˜ Anyone have any platitudes about how this execution is wrong???
     
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  20. Boozercruiser

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    I agree with every word you say there scratcho.
    Sad to say but it is the do gooders who just want to more or less let off these bastards who make the world unsafe for law abiding citizens.
    It is no wonder violence and death is all around us when the evil ones think of the good ones as foolish easy soft touch stupid moron idiots.
    Bang them up for life?
    Nnnnaaaahhhhhh.
    Too expensive!
    Hand out the death penalty for the likes of who you mention there scratcho?
    Absolutely!
    Shit gone and jobby done! :)
     
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