should rapists get the death penalty ?

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Rah, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Oh, what a lovely way to talk to a rape victim:) We see now that you care deeply about their welfare and this makes you a wondeful man...it wasnt all about satisfying your ego and releasing your anger for your own sake, to make you feel macho, of course. Its becaue you CARE so much;)

    Id seriously consider going and doing something constructive now
     
  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Just because they are not prosecuted doesnt mean its not a murder.
    If they did it deliberately it is a murder.
     
  3. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    Something being legal doesnt make it right.
     
  4. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Rapists are the lowest scum and they should be punished. But certainly not executed.
     
  5. Rah

    Rah Member

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    Something being legal doesnt make it right

    can you tell me of anything which is a legal execution thats defined as murder by statute?
     
  6. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    well, i just read a story about a couple men arrested for raping a 3 month old girl. i'm not so civilised that i wouldn't shoot them if that was my baby. they'd die painfully and slowly, completely emasculated.
     
  7. PinkMoon

    PinkMoon Senior Member

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    I am totally against the death penalty for anyone, however awful their crimes.

    Firstly, there is always the possibilty of mistakes being made. People have been found innocent after being on death row for years and coming so close to death

    Secondly, I do not believe the state should have the power to take away life. Yes, the acts committed are often immoral and awful but responding with the death penalty implies a double standard

    Thirdly, the methods of killing with regards to the death penalty can be construed as torture and many methods have been defined in international law as such and yet still take place.

    and fourthly, the death row phenomenon we see so much of is in my mind horrific. Can you imagine being in jail for ten or twenty years just waiting to be killed by the state?

    two wrongs dont make a right
     
  8. IlUvMuSIc

    IlUvMuSIc Senior Member

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    i dont get the question. A legal execution thats definied as murder, well all execution is murder. Legal or not.
     
  9. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    I don't agree with the death penatly for anything, but murder is leagally defined as the "unlawful killing of another", so i.e. not in self defence or any other reason that could be justified. I think the death penalty would technically come under the 'any other justified reason' heading. So legally it is not classed as murder.

    But I hate the idea of killing for whatever reason, so whether or not it is classed as murder - it still shouldn't happen.
     
  10. Rah

    Rah Member

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    Well done I think you are the only other person here who gets what I meant.
    Murder is a legal term. If you use the word "Murder" you are using a term which describes an act that is outlawed. Murder cannot be a term you use simply to mean "killed"
    murder is defined solely by its terms on the statute books as "Unlawful killing".
    Now since execution is defined in law as being killing within the law, or a "lawful killing" it cannot be murder. The law is what defines murder and lawful killing or execution.
    You wouldnt want to call euthenasia either murder or execution would you, and yet that is assisted suicide in some countries and murder in others
    I am not for murder but execution to prevent murder and for societal revenge
     
  11. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i got it. totally got it, i swear. i'm stil anti-death penalty, but i'm totally pro vengeance. honestly, if i caught someone with my girls, not only would the fucker have no penis left, i'd make sure all his friends in prison knew exactly why, and he'd be treated like the little bitch he was. i think i mentioned i'm feral. i just don't want uninvolved individuals carrying out questionable death penalties. too many are put there by overzealous prosecutors looking to make a career. i've been through the jury process a few times, been through the witness process once. i don't trust the correctness of the judicial process enough to be okay with the death penalty. i don't give a SHIT about killing a real rat bastard, i care about the administers and the innocent.

    now, killing viciously someone you caught in the act? fuck yeah, that's a slap on the wrist. a case of "you shouldn't do that...but *whispers* good fucking shot."

    no, i'm not civilized or sweet, i've punched in the kidney people who've dared to smakc the back of my head. they peed blood for week and shoulda known better. fuck 'em.
     
  12. Rah

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  13. Green_Goddess

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    I think they should just cut it off.. lol
     
  14. Rah

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