Should I Stay or should I Go On Holiday?! (Coronavirus Concern)

Hello Hipsters.

Wifey and I have a dilemma
I have been looking at, and already nearly booked a holiday with JET 2 for 18 nights starting 16th March 2020 back in Madeira, in the very same apartments/studios we were in recently.
21c to 25c and Sunny predicted.
Flying from Manchester UK.
I had even gone through the booking process, but pulled out last minute!

https://www.jet2holidays.com/beach/...ooms=65897&gtmsearchtype=Beach Search Results

But we are hooing and harring on whether to do it because of this Coroner virus thing that's going around.
I see there are now cases in Tenerife and Spain and Italy and Iran and even in the UK, but I am getting the feeling that perhaps it is not safe to travel by air ANYWHERE!
Any thoughts on that?

Another holiday to Madeira would cheer us up, and get us away from the freezing cold, but is it safe to go?
I mean.
You wouldn't want to lose me to Coroner Virus now.
Would you?
Was only a nats cock fro booking though at a cost of £1,560 B and B for 18 nights.It's 4 star and is good value for Madeira,
No Corona cases there yet, but people got locked in their hotel on Lanzarote because someone got diagnosed, , and Italy and France and Iran and Italy people are being detained by the authorities, so not looking good.
Perhaps now is not the time to be up in a plane with 200 people coughing and spluttering and possibly the virus being passed through the plane with the air conditioning.
Wifey has told me to hang fire for a few days, but I have not ruled it t out..

I read in todays papers that a lot of people booked to go to Italy with Ryanair and Easy Jet and others but want their money back and want to cancel are being refused.
I would hate to be stranded out there, or even worse to Pop me Clogs!

So then folks.
Am I being something like a Wimp or a Chicken!?
Should I Stay or Should I go!?



Hip forum members, you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say it should be no, then that would be a blow
I hope to be here till here til the end of time
So you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?

So if you want me off your back
Well, come on and let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go, there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

This indecision's bugging me
If you don't want me, set me free
Exactly whom I'm supposed to be
I don't know which holiday clothes even fit me?
Come on and let me know
Should I cool it or should I blow?
Split
Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So ya gotta let me know
Should I cool it or should I blow?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
And if I stay it will be double
So ya gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?

 

You'll make it.

 

Maybe the Bahamas or some of the other islands in the area. Haven't heard anything about them. 0000000--and they're warm!

 

I'd go to Rand McNally

 

Where hamburgers eat people!

 

I watched that episode yesterday. always makes me laugh that bit. I always love Bart's dry ignorance.

Another favourite scene I like is when Lisa is doing the "is a hamster smarter than my brother" project and Bart walks past the book shelf and says "stupid books"

 

I hear China is a good place to go.... Almost nobody there this time of year.

 

I think it is looking very dodgy to travel anywhere now, particularly by plane....



The deadly coronavirus is sweeping across Europe with the outbreak in Italy showing no signs of slowing down and Switzerland, Austria, Croatia and mainland Spain today recording their first cases of the killer infection that has spread to 40 countries or territories.

All of the new European cases – two in Austria, one in Croatia, one in Switzerland, one in Barcelona and two in Tenerife – had travelled to northern Italy, which has been ravaged by the never-before-seen virus.

Italy has seen a dramatic surge in cases since Friday, with the number of infections soaring from just six to 322.

The Italian death toll now stands at 11 after a 76-year-old woman today died in the northern city of Treviso, Veneto.

Towns in Veneto and Lombardy regions were put on lockdown after a cluster of cases sprouted up, but new diagnoses have also been confirmed in the south.

Southern Germany reported its first positive case tonight - a 25-year-old man from Baden-Wuerttemberg who recently visited Milan.

Italy's spike in cases comes after thousands of British families returned from half-term breaks and school skiing trips. Easter holidays – another popular time to go abroad – is just five weeks away.

The British Foreign Office has now advised against all but essential travel to the 11 northern towns in isolation.

More than 80,000 people across the world have been infected, while at least 2,700 are known to have died from the pneumonia-causing virus.

Europe already had a handful of cases of the coronavirus before Italy's outbreak took hold – but almost 360 patients have been struck down across the continent.

In other developments to the escalating coronavirus crisis today:

• Italian officials confirmed the outbreak had spread to the south of the country with two cases in Tuscany and one in Sicily – panic-buyers stripping supermarket shelves bare
• Health chiefs in Italy said they are desperately trying to trace 'patient zero' – the unknown carrier at the centre of the spike of cases
• Italy and its neighbours have decided not to close their borders over the coronavirus, saying it would be a disproportionate and ineffective measure, their health ministers said
• Iran's deputy health minister tested positive for the virus amid a rapidly worsening outbreak in the Islamic republic today – 95 cases have been recorded and 16 patients have died
• Coronavirus fears have once again gripped Britain as more than a dozen schools have told students to self-isolate after flying home from ski trips in Italy
• UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock admitted on live TV that he was 'worried' about the worldwide crisis and said he wouldn't go to the northern regions of Italy that have been affected by the outbreak
• The head of a joint World Health Organization-China team of experts investigating the outbreak insisted countries around the world get prepared in case 'this hits us tomorrow.

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Hundreds of Britons are feared to be trapped in a Tenerife hotel that has been placed in lockdown due to a coronavirus outbreak.

Roughly 700 guests were confined to their bedrooms at the four-star H10 Costa Adeje Palace Hotel in a desperate attempt to stop the virus from spreading.

British guests described how their trips had turned into a 'holiday from hell' after the coastal hotel in the south-west of the island was suddenly shut yesterday morning.

The scare was triggered when a doctor and his wife from the Italian region at the centre of the health crisis fell ill and tested positive.

Last night, Canary Islands President Angel Victor Torres said the 'hundred and odd' tourists who checked into the hotel on Monday - and had had no contact with the patients - could leave on Wednesday.

But at a highly anticipated press conference, he dropped the bombshell that most of the guests will be 'subject to active individual monitoring' and paved the way for a two-week quarantine period.

Hotel bosses also announced the Costa Adeje Palace was closing until the middle of March to 'guarantee the safety of guests and staff.'

Setting out the immediate future for most of the holidaymakers currently in the hotel, he Domingo Nunez, head of Epidemiology of the Canary Islands Health Service, said: 'Guests will have to stay in the hotel without leaving the hotel.

And the door is LOCKED with a lock and chain!

 

I think you've made your own mind up then

 

I voted no simply because you are too close to where the coronavirus is.
I would change to a place like Singapore.
Nice place friendly people and a place where you get your temperature checked three times a day.
They look after you and your health.
temperature wise it's around the 30*C mark so it will be hot there.

 

I say don't chance it actually. They are working on a vaccine from what I understand. I think it may be available by April, but I'm not sure. I'd have to google around. Maybe they will do human testing by April. Anyway, safety first, mate.

 

Thank you for your well meaning reply's guys.
Well Barking Spider, my Wife has likely made my mind up for me.
She usually does!
She thinks it is too dangerous to be going almost anywhere now as this Coroner (well some victims are gonna need one)! has turned almost into a pandemic.

I will keep an eye on the holiday though as it is for 16th March 2020 so still time to book.
Another thing putting me off as well is that during the booking process there are no seats available for us to sit together.
That's another bummer!
Will keep you informed as haven't fully pulled out of going yet.



Thousands of Britons face coronavirus screening amid fears the number of infections on UK soil could 'explode' after a 'worst case' government report predicted 80 per cent of the population could catch it if it takes hold.

The Department of Health is ramping up detection methods so anyone with a severe chest infection at one of 11 NHS hospitals or around 100 GP practices dotted around the country will automatically be tested for the deadly infection – even if they haven't been to an at-risk country.

Until now, members of the public were only tested if they were both ill and had a link to China or another country at the heart of the outbreak in East Asia. Now broader testing will be done to stay a step ahead of the virus.

Screening will be ratcheted up to try to catch the virus on a local scale and avoid a sudden surge in infections, which could only become obvious when it is too late to stop the spread. It comes after an explosion in cases in Italy since Friday has seen more than 350 people diagnosed with the illness and travellers carry it to Austria, Switzerland and Croatia.

It came as reports revealed a government 'worst-case' planning memo has predicted more than 80 per cent of the 66million people in Britain could contract the disease, of which 500,000 may die.

The 'Covid-19 Reasonable Worst Case Scenario' report was produced by the government's National Security Communications Team, which is overseen by the Cabinet Office, and said schools could be closed, transport networks shut down and public gatherings prevented if an outbreak were to take hold in the UK.

Seven British schools have closed and 18 more in England, Wales and Northern Ireland have told pupils and staff to go into self-isolation after half-term skiing trips to northern Italy.

Professor Paul Cosford, medical director for Public Health England, today admitted the Government does not know how many Brits have come back from skiing trips to the north of Italy but said it was a 'significant number'.

Official advice was changed on Tuesday to say that people should self-isolate at home if they have travelled home from one of 11 quarantined towns in the Lombardy and Veneto regions, or if they feel ill after visiting north of Pisa.

But health bosses triggered confusion yesterday about whether it was safe to travel in future. When asked if he would go to northern Italy, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said 'I'm not planning on going, put it that way' in an interview.

However, PHE's Professor Cosford, said it would be 'unreasonable' to advise people not to travel to Italy, and the Foreign Office does not warn against any other parts of the country.

The dramatic escalation in policy comes as the global number of cases of COVID-19 jumped above 81,000, with more than 2,762 now dead.

The situation is beginning to level off in China but infections continue to spike in South Korea and Iran, while a second person has died in France and dozens more people were diagnosed in Italy. The director-general of the World Health Organization said yesterday was the first day when more cases were discovered outside of China than within it.

In other developments to the outbreak:

• BBC Radio 4 presenter, Nick Robinson, said he is in self-isolation awaiting the results of a coronavirus test after returning from a holiday to Vietnam and Cambodia
• Stock markets in Europe continue to fall as virus fears trigger a sell-off, with the UK's FTSE 100 dropping 0.8% and Germany's DAX and France's CAC 40 sunk by as much as 2%
• Channel 4 presenter Jon Snow announced he is self-isolating after travelling to Iran, which is firefighting one of the largest coronavirus crises outside China
• Governments are 'simply not ready' to tackle their own coronavirus onslaughts, the World Health Organisation's China chief claimed
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• Yesterday, Croatia, Austria, Switzerland, mainland Spain and Algeria all declared their first cases of the coronavirus, most among travellers from Italy
• A hotel in Tenerife in the Canary Islands with hundreds of guests including Britons was on lockdown after four holidaymakers tested positive
• The Irish health minister said the Six Nations rugby match between Ireland and Italy, due to take place in Dublin next Saturday, should be called off

 

The virus hit Singapore quite some time ago so not good advice.

 

I just read an article that poses the same question as Boozer! It indicated that you probably shouldn't plan anything for places that have been effected by the coronavirus.

7 common questions about the coronavirus answered

 

Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
Purchase travel insurance and go ahead with your plans, is what I say. Then if you need to cancel last minute you get your money back

 

Thank you for your kind replies which I value greatly.
The thing is the 18 night holiday we want on 16th March in Madeira is still there, and the price is still the same.
We will not book right now, and just keep an eye on the availability.
Price of £1,670 is still the same and that could go up or down or the holiday could just be sold out.
Perhaps this could be a case of book in haste, repent at leisure.
So we will just wait and see how this Coroner Virus thingy pans out.
Right now though I am pleased we haven’t actually booked the holiday.

 

It is looking like my decision not to book that holiday was the right one!

Coronavirus threat to YOUR holiday: Millions of trips are at risk as BA cancels flights | Daily Mail Online

Coronavirus threat to YOUR holiday:

Millions of trips are at risk as BA cancels flights and fresh cases are reported across Europe from Norway to Greece and on every continent except Antarctica

• Brazil reported first patient with the illness, means virus has now spread to every continent except Antarctica
• Cases also diagnosed for the first time in Greece, North Macedonia, Georgia and Pakistan on Wednesday
• British Airways cancelled dozens of flights from the UK to Milan due to a drop in demand after fears
• Are you travel plans disrupted? Email martin.robinson@mailonline.co.uk or call 0203 615 1866

The holiday plans of millions of Britons could be at risk after the number of coronavirus cases around the world overtook China for the first time and the virus crisis tightened its grip on the UK today.

Brazil has reported its first patient with the illness, which means the virus has now spread to every continent except Antarctica, with cases also diagnosed for the first time in Norway, Greece, North Macedonia, Georgia and Pakistan.

British Airways has cancelled dozens of flights to Milan due to a drop in demand and fresh cases in Spain, France, Croatia, Austria and Switzerland sparked industry fears that people may choose not to go on holiday at all over Easter in April or avoid booking foreign breaks in 2020 altogether.

Italy is the epicentre of a European outbreak with 50 more cases, including eight children, reported yesterday – taking the country’s toll to 458 - and twelve patients have died in a week.

And there are growing fears that coronavirus could now gain a foothold in Britain because of the 100,000-plus people travelling between the two countries every week.

All 66million people in Britain will be told to wash their hands for 20 seconds and sneeze into tissues as part of a new public information campaign to halt the killer virus' spread. NHS nurses and paramedics will also start testing people with flu-like symptoms at home to stop patients walking into GP surgeries and hospitals.

Travellers to and from Britain are in limbo about whether they should cancel their business or holiday travel for fear of being exposed to the killer virus sweeping the globe, which has infected more than 81,000 people and killed almost 2,800.

Attempts by Health Secretary Matt Hancock to quell panic and avoid 'overreaction' that could harm Britain's economy failed as at least 13 schools ignored his plea not close, businesses sent staff home and international sport fixtures were cancelled.

There is also growing anger and confusion over differing messages about the seriousness of the coronavirus crisis because yesterday Public Health England warned that it could shut down towns and cities, schools and public transport systems if the current 13 positive tests in the UK began going up at the same shocking rate seen in Europe.

 

Oh my!!!
How did I miss this!!!
I am just planning a flight!!!

 

Where to Gal.

Exactly this holiday thing was discussed on The Jeremy Vine show this morning on Channel 5.
Get it up on......

My5

 

I will look later
I was just looking at Portugal.
No wonder there are cheap deals.