Should I dose again at all?

Well, yeah, there is a criteria towards properly diagnosing a patient with any illness, mental or physical. You obviously wouldn't say that a manic person is depressed, or that a person with a fever is in hypothermia. I've actually had to read a lot of the DSM-IV, and it is not anywhere near what ChinaCat was implying. The process of being diagnosed with a mental illness is rigorous and lengthy. The DSM just serves as a rough guideline towards what has been established regarding mental health thus far, and as such is always being updated and revised.

 

This would be me many many times in my life.

 

Sorry Neo, but I AM schizo afterall...

 

Furthermore, this rant PM that i sent to Writer a while back (up above^) was a completely legitimate concern at that point in my life. IMO it's a very similar sort of rant to that of FreshDacre in the OP. It looks insane, but the concern is very real.

So, are we crazy or not?:biggrinjester:

 

yes.

in a perfect world, sure. but in practice many psychiatrists have their 'diagnosis' figured out based on an intake questionnaire.

medication management is a lot more lucrative than psychotherapy.

 

schizophrenia is an unfriendly term for someone that doesn't fit in with society. the point being is that it induces fear, to propogate the current status quo. fear is productive to inducing stability within a corrupt system. if there was no corruption, then there would be no need for fear. love is what raises true rulers, but the eyes of corruption would rather see true authority brought to the ground. there is no sanity, or insanity, just a choice, between love and fear. we take those people who can't mesh it with the mainstream, and rather than help them and learn from them, we lock them up, or lable them as delusional.

if we're talking about what reality is, then reality is brought about through consensus, and survival. you can create any kind of system and as long as you get enough people that agree with it, and you can create a means to survival, it will work, every time. that's all this society is, is a bunch of people with a common agreement on what reality should be, except that most people are crippled by fear into becoming followers, instead of leaders. which again leads me back to curruption. corruption and selfishness brings about the need to induce fear to rule. there needs to be an objective standard, but everyone has their own idea of what truth is. the objective standard is love, and the ability to find a common ground, without compromising your integral charachter.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that before you let your views be shaped by society, perhaps you should take a look at what society is breeding on a large scale.

nobody's right, if everybody's wrong. sadly enough this has been the state of affairs for the last 40 years. but we are learning, slowly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9PiEgYYUU"]YouTube - Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth (Monterey 1967)

 

Cut the bullshit. Last I checked, "society" was composed of many different ideologies and worldviews. I know it's hard to believe, but society is not as homogeneous as people on this board wish it to be.
If schizophrenia is only a label to produce fear to protect the stability of a corrupt system, then why can we scientifically correlate schizophrenic disorders with specific genes? Why does schizophrenia occur in all societies regardless of religion, race, economic class, or culture? If schizophrenia is just an invention designed to keep people down, then how come fringe cultures (such as the one surrounding psychedelics) are allowed to exist without intrinsically being attributed to a mental disorder? Why is schizophrenia such a devastating disorder to those who suffer from it? If the mental health industry is just a tool of the man, then why has a cure for schizophrenia been estimated to be developed within 10 years?

People actually suffer from schizophrenia Desos, and it isn't because the government makes it that way or lies about it. What you say about schizophrenia is offensive and an injustice to those who actually suffer from it.
BTW, schizophrenics aren't locked up just for being schizophrenics. That only happens when they are considered a danger to themselves or others, and as someone who has worked in a ward with 50 schizophrenics who have all killed people, it isn't a myth, it actually happens.

 

okay, so there are a select few individuals that actually are schizophrenic and are dangerous. but i guess that the key word here would be dangerous. if someone isn't really dangerous, do we really need to cram a bunch of propoganda down their through to make them conform? how many of those dangerous schizophrenics were pushed over the edge by fear?

you can't deny that the psychiatry system is totally out of control. if you look at statistics of the number of people with mental disorders, the amount of people that are 'mentally ill' has raised about twenty fold in the last ten years. is that because people are becoming more insane? no, i don't think so.

whether it be a tool of the man, or even just economical greed, the psychiatry system is totally out of line.

why are people suffering in the first place? the roots to that problem can be traced back to the fundamental structure of our society. it doesn't work, and it isn't sustainable.

 

Lol @ "select few". Way to minimize the hazards of an illness.
I don't even know what you are talking about.
What propaganda?

No, it's because the mental health field is relatively new and still growing at a rapid pace, and it is much better equipped to accurately assess and diagnosis mental disorders in 2010.
Psychologists don't cruise around in vans looking for people to capture and diagnosis. People go to them because they want help. In the past it was considered taboo to do that, "only crazy people need psychologists". In the past mental illnesses weren't considered legitimate. People thought people were making them up as an excuse to be lazy and not work.
Nowadays people are more willing to visit them, there is less stigma about it.

Did you miss the part where I said schizophrenia occurs in every society and culture in recorded history, and that it can be genetically identified?
But that's OK, keep blaming things on "society".

 

Mushrooms are the best you just gotta surrender to them for a smooth journey. Some real magic

 

must be really nice and comforting to be able to lay all of the worlds problems at the feet of one source.

 

the propoganda is the prejudices and biases of the psychiatry system as a whole.

yes, because the psychiatry system is gaining more maintream support from the media and government. it's trending. and guess what, the media and government is just as bad as always. i do believe the economy is still in shambles.

so now we are singling out a heredetary trait and labeling those people as inherently insane? now wouldn't that be a form of genocide? and incase you didn't notice, after WWII america became the cornerstone for almost the entire world economy and way of thinking. because we won, the WORLD war

i could go into it at a much deeper level, but that was a blanket term to describe what i was thinking.

 

Its all about set and setting. Taking these drugs will open you to your enviroment like completely. You seen some shit man, alot of us have seen some shit. Learn to let go thats what its all about.

 

Damn man, that's nuts. Talk about One Flew Over times 10. I bet that was interesting shit, and humbling?

 

Fuck yes. I'm thinking of getting some soon. Hopefully i don't regret it. :afro::sultan:

 

Ok about this debate, I just wanna clear things up, like I said before I believe I was schizophrenic, and during that time that I was I knew for a fact that something was wrong with me. I think that classes as schizo if you hear voices and know that you aren't supposed to. I kinda get what chinacat is trying to say, but I do believe that people that went through things like I did had mental illness of some kind. Whether or not I had a supernatural connection, it wasn't supposed to be going down.
I suppose this could be seen as an option to decide if it is "normal" or not, but mabey since it was so terrifying I didn't want to call it "normal". However there were some huge positives in it. Mabey I am just "brainwashed" like neo and give into the norm. I could really go both ways with this argument.
But I did seek help from a psychiatrist, because I didn't see any other way out.

 

the answer is yes!

 

I love shrooms with a passion....

 

I went through some shit like you did, we get over it, take the good with the bad and move on. I think you should dose again, I do not think you are crazy, just growing.

 

Shrooms>LSD :alien: