Should Guns be Outlawed in the U.S.A?

Discussion in 'Political Polls' started by Hyde, Mar 27, 2009.

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Like they say if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns.

    If a gang banger wants a gun, it really doesn't matter that it is illegal, he has no problem with doing what is illegal. So by making guns illegal, you will only be taking guns out of the hands of law-abiding people and not taking them out of the hands of the lawless. What is the point of that?
     
  2. reb

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    Kenny, it's holder that's been running his mouth about gun laws and the second amendment. you won't find any of his quotes on any left wing sites (none i have seen, anyway). no publicity. he's an obama appointee...so, the buck stops with the boss. holder is solidly for more 'gun control' laws...which are only applicable to those who want to abide by the law. he's another fucking suit who wants to tell people what they can and can't do...like the rest of the 'take up firearms' crowd, he should go get a life, and mind his own damn business. no one is bothering his ass, so leave others alone and deal with the crooked politicians, under the table money, soft political contributions, violations of war which is undeclared, theft of purchasing power by the federal reserve's monetary policy and other matters which might benefit the country, instead of wasting his time wanting our property.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder
     
  3. Individual

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    Sometimes, it's not what you say but what you don't say. Has Obama said he is against outlawing guns, or might he just sit back and stay out of the argument to avoid blame?
     
  4. GentleBen

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    I think guns are a neccesary evil, if things get bad in the US which is what I am expecting you'll, need them.
     
  5. Individual

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    Guns aren't evil, and like many other objects, knives, axes, hammers, ropes, or even stones, it is the use they are put to that may be considered evil, or perhaps even good.
     
  6. willedwill

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    Individual:

    You couldn't have been alias Neo-dude too? Imaginary Being?


    <I'm a bigshot in the American convention; I'm better than you even were, Stephen H.>
     
  7. Individual

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    I'm none other than myself, an individual.
     
  8. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Individual means to be indivisible, not broken up or fragmented. Are you saying you are not fragmented? You support violence and the killing of other individuals, in that implies division, conflict within yourself does it not?
     
  9. ronny25

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    Well i agree with you that guns kill. Do I think they should be banned?, no. My family has guns, all kinds. We don't shoot people or animals, we do how ever hit targets and have competitions with accuracy. This is really good with hand eye coordination and the boys love it. We also like to use our old guns that are old American 50 caliber black powder guns. When you fire these puppies you feel it down to your toes. It's like holding a small canon in your arms. So, while guns do kill, they also do a lot of good. And let me tell you what, if we had a disaster here like they had in catrina and the Gov left us hanging like they did there, i'd be thankful for a gun.
     
  10. la Principessa

    la Principessa Member since '08

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    What if there's a zombie outbreak? We can't have no guns...but then again it'll probably be anarchy so no one will care about the laws when they're looting for food and shooting zombified policemen.
     
  11. Individual

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    A single person, distinct in many ways from others. I have all my body parts intact, so no I'm not fragmented. When it becomes necessary, yes I do support the killing of other individuals, and that only implies self preservation, and unresolvable conflict with others, not with myself.
     
  12. walsh

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    Distinct in what way? You aren't a part of society?
     
  13. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    Distinct in that I don't blend, or try to blend into one group in search of feeling accepted. Parties, clubs, and cliques demand too much compromise. It has nothing to do with being a part of society, which we all are to some degree. It's unavoidable.
     
  14. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    so you base a political philosophy on a personal aberration?
     
  15. S&L

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    The 'gun culture' in this country is out of control!
    What we need is nation-wide safe storage and handling law,
    together with a mendatory safety course to be able to apply for a federl gun license
    no state should be able to pass own gun laws ecxept for banning them
    magazin capacity regulation (not more than 10 rounds)
    assault weapon ban
    keeping arms out of the hands of criminals and 'survivalists'!
    nation-wide ban on hunting with semiauto rifles AND hand guns.
     
  16. Individual

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    Political philosophy itself is nothing more than a conglomeration of aberrant thoughts imposed upon the masses in ways they willingly accept with little or no questions, most beneficial to the imposers.
     
  17. tehuti

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    what do the laws being passed in the united states have to do with me? the united states can do whatever it wants with its property, i have no problems with that...
     
  18. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    that's one way of looking at it, but far from the only way

    funny that those who would gladly see the masses sink or swim seem to claim so much sympathy for their plight when it comes to a 'freedom' which would leave most bewildered
     
  19. Fawkes

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    Amen, I'm glad to see that you feel this way.

    I don't own a gun, but that is because of economic, not philosophic reasons. I don't see any good reason why guns should be outlawed. And if guns were outlawed, then I would definitely find a way to get an illegal one to protect myself from the inevitable spike in crime.

    Liberals think they can create a utopia by doing things like outlawing guns and redistributing wealth, but what they are really doing is creating a dystopia.
     
  20. walsh

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    This I can agree with. One would think that someone who sees that fact would run as far away from political philosophy as possible.
     
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