Should Guns be Banned in the US?

If you don't mind being referred to as weak minded then you two deserve each other

 

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well, the way i see it is, you either aren't weak-minded so who cares what walsh thinks?

or you are weak-minded and resent that your secret is out

[keep both hands where i can see them]

 

are you familiar with the 2nd amendment? i believe in the ideals on which this country was founded. banning guns is just plain retarded. uk and aussieland have higher per capita murder rate than us and they have crazy gun control laws. buds illegal but you can still find it anywhere in the world. make it illegal, only criminals would have guns. but aside from that, don't be a pussy. let people hunt, protect their families, etc

 

Who seek/plot to ban guns are so much retarded as they are power hungry. Any government offical whom has in their oath of office sworn to uphold the Constitution and then takes momey/favors from lobbiests to work against it should be charged with treason and/or sedition. Oh yeah since this is during a time of war.....

 

assuming by "lobbiests" you mean the lobbyists from the national rifle association?

 

And I'd just as soon see all the professional bribers out of their jobs. It is treason to take money to violate their oaths of office in my eyes.
Along those lines thre Pres is Commander in Chief is he not and also sworn to defend the same Constitution. In trying to subvert it does he open himsel to courts marshal?
btw:its a weak debater who resorts to harping on the other's spelling, typing. or grammer.....

 

Some people may feel like victims--I sure as hell don't. I can handle myself and I don't go around with a gun like some do in -say--Arizona or some such place. I don't feel afraid anyplace I go--for one--I don't look like a victim and I don't carry myself like a victim. I never get bothered. I am not a scared person,however if someone broke into my personal space intending to harm me or whatever people like that wish to do when they intrude in the dead of night--I will protect myself not by begging to "Oh -please don't hurt me" but by doing what I legally have a right to do. That is--protect myself and anyone else in my space that is threatened with mayhem or death. I hope to hell it never happens and the only time I ever think about this is when I come to this thread. I can only speak for myself--and I have.

 

^^^ COrrect

Couldn't agree more.

 

It does not matter what laws I am familiar with, whether constitutional or legislative, when we are discussing the question of whether something should be legal or not. Laws change, and constitutions change, and the nation that upholds them just "because they are there" is a doomed nation. I would have thought this was obvious by the fact that the document we are talking about is itself an amendment.

UK and Australia do not have higher per capita murder rate, US has about 5 times higher rate. So you can forget the government/gun company's lies on that one. Hunting with guns is no problem in Australia, if you have a license.

 

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but you are clearly talking out of your ass. Shotguns are necessary for pretty much all waterfowl and most upland gamebird hunting.

 

Hunting. Knocking down ice above roadways. Percussive geotechnics. Etc.

 

Don't higher murder rates than the US,however their murder rates went up when they banned guns. There are a few towns most notably that little town in down around Atlantis were the citizens are required to keep a gun in the home where the crime rate dropped like a rock.
I handle myself well and haven't carried a gun in defcades although going a lot of places most folks won't go even armed. I've also spent years doing crisis intervention, going in unarmed and disarming freaked out folks etc. The skills I employ took decades to aquire and are beyond the reach of the average person, yet I've seen guns save more lives in civilian society than not, An armed society is a polite and peaceful for the most part.

 

Reminds me of a shooting some years back in California. Some gangstas did a drive by in a school yard. A few kids were hit, and the gangstas used shotguns.
Me and my fellow hunting buddies laughed at that. Gangstas & shotguns. And the hit-miss ratio sucked. Us, though.... any of us could take a .22 LR rifle (either bolt, lever or pump actions) and score not only more hits per shots fired, but also more kills. We considered it's the "city kids" versus us "country hicks" thing.

But, back on target now....
The issue that bothered us is right after that California Legislature started debating a gun control law. A law to control the lawful possession of firearms by law-abiding tax-paying citizens. Somehow I don't think any of those gun laws will mean a thing to a gangsta. And I know those shotguns used were stolen. You simply will not find a criminal legally purchasing a gun to use in a crime. It leave a paper trail. So I ask, WTF is this law crap for if it won't affect the criminal element?

 

It always amazes that we've reached a point in our society where people are literally begging to have their most basic constitutional rights taken away. This country makes me sick nowadays.

 

I would have thought the most basic constitutional right is to live in a safe country.

 

Ban guns? If you're going to ban something ban being stupid.

 

Fun fact: MENSA was founded as a pro-eugenics group that believed that smart people should rule the world and only smart people should be allowed to breed.


Good idea, I'd say, but then my testes would get clipped.

 

An unarmed country is a 'safe countrouty'. I pity you as I do anyone willing to trade freedom for security. We've been talking about rights, what about responsibility. As in the God ordained responsibilty of any adult to defend themselves and their family? What are you going to be doing after the home invading thugs kick in your door and you(if you are able to reach your phone or panic button) have ten minutes to a half hour to spend at their mercy while you await the arrival of your local police? Have you any idea how long even five minutes is under those circumstances?