Should God Govern Governments?

Should God govern governments?

At present, governments control the law of the land and church policy to a large extent. Should the law of the land be God’s law?

Separation of church and state, to my way of thinking, is impossible. To think that an elected official who adheres to a religion can somehow leave his or her religion out of the houses of government when they enter to take their seat is ridiculous. Social, cultural and traditional conditioning that people live under cannot just be set aside in one’s mind. Further a representative must represent his constituents and in the U.S. they will be religious constituents who wish to be represented as religious and not necessarily secular.

Christians and other religious seek to live in a theocracy under what I would call a Timocratic Tyranny. Timocratic in the sense that God rules for love, honor and duty. Tyrannical in the sense that any who break any of the laws, large or small, are swiftly dealt with. The non-religious seek more of a democratic nation where they make the rules and not God. As a Gnostic Christian, I admit to being secular and have no love of the laws the Gods offer.

At present, we all live in Oligarchic countries. Some of these we call democratic, some communistic and others of various labels but at the end of the day, all of us live in Oligarchies. We are all owned and controlled by those with wealth and bought political power.

If I focus on the U.S., I do not see how it is possible for what many Americans call a Christian nation, to not be conflicted, when Americans seek freedom and democracy in governance here on earth, while seeking the Timocratic Tyranny of heaven.

This goes against the notion of as above so below, or as Christians say, on earth as it is in heaven.

For Christians to end this governance conflict, --- they cannot have their cake and eat it too, ---Americans would have to bring God’s law to earth and scrap the notions of democracy and vote for a Timocratic Tyranny like what God has in heaven.

To accomplish the Christian goal of God’s law on earth as it is in heaven, the Christian right would have to gain power and end democracy in the U.S.

I would ask those Christians on the religious and political right, are you ready to try to dismantle the Oligarchy you presently live under, --- end the farce of democracy, --- and install God’s Timocratic Tyranny?

Regards
DL

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How would you do things like regulate financial markets under 'god's law'? I don't recall much about that in the Bible, the Koran or in fact any other scripture.

Same with a lot of other contemporary issues.

 

Let's see if it can stop wars and inequality, first. Then we can move on to other more mundane issues.

 

Nobody scares me more than humans who claim to speak for god.

 

Pretty scary - especially if they hold political power.

 

I hope god comes back pretty soon and takes all the fundamentalists of all faiths to.....well shit....I don't really care where they go. Anywhere is fine with me as long as it isn't here.

 

Neh, goddesses should govern governments.

 

It's the Muslims who want to establish Kingdom on Earth (all governance under Allah).

Let Gregg Braden be the leader, that guy is smart and he's probably closest to God than most governmental employees / officials.

 

Your post is full of and founded upon lies and falsehoods, twistings of reality, baseless assumptions, and the like - as such, the question cannot be effectively or validly answered in this thread.

 

Government is not in God's dictionary. Government is part of ego, God has no ego. Man however is riddled with a curse from it.

 

I'll take Islam as an example, but it could apply to any religion. Muslim are safer everywhere else, comparing with countries where Islam prevails, or Muslims make up the biggest and governing chunk of the population. There, they kill each other, repress each other, keep each other in ignorance and the dark ages. They bomb each other's mosques, etc.

Europe was a hell pit when religion was important for Europeans.

 

Set me straight on the right path of the Nature which in this day and age humans do nothing but design institutions against, allows for the free will of indifference to time. But the time can and must be temporal for the apparent mind over body: really doing good with environmental ethics... :guitarist:

 

That isn't the only place where those magic words appear. They're also on the wall behind a judge's head, in the circus court room. Sickening, isn't it?

 

Also keep in mind that God has a history of creating new creatures every few hundred million years to EAT his older creations.

Another thing to always remember, God loves the smell of cooked flesh.

 

I have the world's best neighbors. The lady downstairs cooks early in the morning .. that smell rises up to me and I think of God. Pleasing aromas to God is no different from pleasing aromas to us. I also get to hear Somewhere Over The Rainbow from my wonderful downstairs neighbor. She's so cool, I just love her. Oh, and those smells from her cooking make me feel good. It's hard to be wrathful when somethin' good is cookin'.

 

In practice, letting God govern governments amounts to letting people who purport to act in God's name govern us. We've tried that before and it's led to no end of conflict, violence, injustice and oppression, because those people are usually the biggest dicks on two legs. If God wanted to govern us, He'd presumably do so. We do have at least one Supreme Court Jusice. Antonin Scalia, who believes it's appropriate for government to favor and promote religion. That's why elections matter. When you vote Republican, that's what you get.

 

If there is a God, and he is a Supreme Ruler, like the God in the Bible, than he already governs governments. All governments. He knows what is going to happen and what has already happened. Since he is omniscient, there is no way he could not govern. So, the question in the OP is the wrong one, in my opinion.