sharia law

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  1. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    How about you retell it in a few short sentences ?
     
  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Yeah. Americans are just like Balkan people - loud, primitive and always fighting.
     
  3. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    laws are there to provide a safe place for people to maintain their identities and values, not to create a universal identity or value. as such, everyone of varying values has a right to a say in what those laws should be.
     
  4. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    don't forget uneducated and rural (read: hick or redneck)
     
  5. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Thanks for explaining it to the class....
     
  6. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    But Balkan is such a nice part of the world. And the people are nice.
     
  7. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Basically, what Rowan Atkinson is saying is that law is put in place not as a means of 'universal...social existence', but more to do with having a system that incorporates things from all walks of life. So in theory, we should have laws that help everyone in our country. Therefore what he's basically saying is that Sharia Law should be given some leeway in our legal system, because it is something that alot of the population (being Muslim) abide by.

    Make sense?:)
     
  8. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Yup.
    Nice job.
     
  9. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I am too lazy to think about it myself...Otherwise I'd definately understand it.
    Most definately :uhoh2:
     
  10. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Still don't get it?
     
  11. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I do now. I was just saying that I'd understand the complicated version as well if I really wanted to think deeper about it.
    In my defense, English is not my first language.
     
  12. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    crucifixtion is in the quran so it has to be part of sharia law its part of the legal code of countrys who fully apply sharia .

    he seems to think that you allow people to follow what laws they like , I suppose this goes with multiculturalism which seems to see all cultures as equally valid , personally I dont think they are .

    I dont think islam has a great record of just staying as part of the legal system without moving to try to take over more .
    basically multiculturalism is a vehicle for invasion , I dont think at the moment anyones going to stop this process but at some point there is likely to be a backlash and a lot of violence and genocide .

    really the arch bishop should be more of a student of history
     
  13. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    This I understand.
    I think someone mentioned Balkan, which is a great example for what you're talking about. Multiculturalism is basically a good thing untill one culture starts developing dangerous ideas...
     
  14. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    I think he's referring more towards courts of marriage than executions and the like, John.
     
  15. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    how old are you dhh do you remember the recent balkans wars ,or the fact the place is still a powerkeg , and has one of the worst historys of really nasty interethnic wars anywhere .


    if you take countrys that are Homogeneous like britian used to be to a extent and like say japan.
    and then you take countrys split with large numbers of people with a history of conflict going back thousands of years, wanting different legal systems refusing to marry or integrate , Id say on average the more Homogeneous countrys are more peaceful .
     
  16. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I was kidding.
    I was born in Bosnia, moved to Croatia when the war began, been a poor refugee for many years , so you dont have to tell me anything about Balkan, Balkan wars and conflicts.
     
  17. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    look at it from a muslim who believes in sharia law point of view and Ive read books written by them ,they see this as a gradual process so you get marriage courts which gets people used to the idea of two processes of law in the country then you gradually expand , it may take a while but thats the aim .
     
  18. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    well sorry didnt know your background
     
  19. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Its okay...;)
    Its not much of a background though.
    And you were totally right. Just look at Bosnia. I havent seen a country that is more depressing. There is no future. Serbians, Croatians and Bosnians ( Muslims ) living in one country.....That was bound to fail. Its not a natural state. Three equal cultures in one country...No can do.
     
  20. Roffa

    Roffa Senior Member

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    That's the trouble with not expressing yourself in a clear and straightfroward way - other people will go and simplify things for you, and attack what they decide you "seem" to be saying. I don't think Williams has said people should "follow what laws they like". He has suggested that there should be a place for Sharia courts to resolve civil disputes. According to the BBC something similar has been happening for centuries among orthodox Jews:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7233040.stm

     
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