Shameless_Heifer and Haight Ashbury

Some time there mustbe conflict to find truth Its a good thing there is someone to say no thats bullshit and i dont believe in it.Question what others say how else will you find out if your rguments are for not or should be stood by to the end.Sure Gates got his oppinions bravoh but we arent here to get down on each other.love us hate us so what .Jst get off our backs.its not a pony ride this mule kix. This is about what went on in our lives we are here to share our lives with people you dont have to throw maters at us you can move on to the next thread you find peoplle of your like thats why we are here to talk to people of our kind.We need no f*ckers here!!!You dont like what we stand for move along you came to the wrong place i dont know if there is a redneck forum but good luck we send our love

 

To my son
I love you my darlin'. I am so tired of fighting, at my age I should not be challenged so contenuosly. I what to spend my time here helping not being a bitch. I don't like that part of the colective mind. I'm more of the one mind type. I wasnt quiting or running, but I could clearly see I was fueling the flame. Being just as responsible as gate in the static on the thread. In the begening it was a nice there, harmless and nonjudgemenat, it changed rythem on me so I choose not to partisipate in it any longer, it's accomplishing nothing and it's making me angry. I don't like being angry. Anger brings out the beast and it's best if the beast stay hibernating because the beast is all consumming. It brings memories of when I was battered and kicked around by male chovenist pigs. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. But now I know I have choices.
It's all about the choices we make and what we are willing to draw to us. I can deal with that, but to sencelessly come in here day after day to just get all puffed up doesn't agree with me. I'm not spending my precious time setting myself up for punches. And what kind of person would want to come in and smack granny around in the first place. I don't want to surround myself with people that want to smack me around. That's counter productive and generates negitivity. There is enough negitivity floating around, I don't want to be a part of the generating of it.
I wasn't leaving the Forums, just this thread. In the personal forums one has more control as to what goes on in their own 'living room' and you can delete annoying posts so your not confronted with them everytime you go to your forum.
I don't like waking up to insults evey morning. I'd sooner not come in here then start my day off like that. It's not running, it's stepping aside and letting it go. It's knowing how to cast the spell, but knowing also what ripples it will cause if cast, it's the Rede I must stand by. I have to rise above it and connect with my higherself, which know's bs when it smells it. Am I to walk around the bs and come around smelling like a rose or jump in the middle of it and come out smelling like shit. There's my choice babydoll, I choose to smell like the rose.

WE1,
I feel like I should be wearing camo when I come in here anymore and a helmet. Yikes..

Tundra, yes, I still have my southern drawl sugah, If you send me your email I'll send ya a wave.

 

Shameless,
OK-sent you a private message. I haven't been to the Deep South in a long time but I got to say I loved it when we did-especially Louisiana. Was in West Texas a while back and will have to get back sometime. If there are negatives to Southern Culture there are also positives. Now where I grew up Southerners were stereotyped as ignorant Gomers-what a shock it was when I started meeting Southerners who were some really fine people. Back in the day it didn't seem I could not entertain a prejudice for a week without someone from the target group coming along and blowing it all to hell. So I gave up...
So you are getting tired of all the nitpicking and moaning going on around your posts here? You must really be on to something here that some want to run you out of town on a rail. Fuggem! I came to the conclusion that a goodly chunk of general humanity was hopelessly benighted a long time ago, and that nothing much these poor souls could say made a whit of difference. Still see things that way-and I don't see it as arrogance but as dealing with scientific facts.
Gotta say I have really enjoyed your reminiscences and hope you keep it up somewhere. And one ounce of "was there" will always be worth more than a ton of "read or heard about it".
Tundrahopper4

 

We,
EVERYBODY was dumping on the Vietnam vets back in the day. I remember TV shows with psycho vets killing people and Clint Eastwood even had movie with a thinly disguised VV as the villian. Why? Well you guys got to take the fall for the failures of US policy in SE Asia. An interesting thing the popular mind wants to do is to take a bad example from a certain group and hold that bad example up as "typical" (and demogogues and yellow journalists are only too happy to play to this). At any rate you guys got to be "the pot smoking goof offs" or "LT Calley" and the reason why nothing seemed to be working over there. Not fair or rational at all.
Tundrahopper4
PS. Then if you came back from Vietnam and grew your hair long you got to be LT Calley AND Charlie Manson.

 

tundrahopper


The popular sentiment of the seventies was 98% of nam combat vets were psycho. When I was in school during that decade. I never told any of my friends I served there. It got so bad, In fact,the main reason the United States government financed the Methadone program starting in late 1972 that was approved, and even encouraged,by the staunchily anti-drug Richard Nixon. Was because, Nixon was becoming very paranoid and even terrified. That returning "strung-out combats vets are going to take control of the inner city's thru there superior use of combat tactics and weapons",Nixon said. And then work to overthrow his administration in a few years time,he feared. So Nixon, being the parnoid old fool that he was,made a pact with the devil. To give himself some piece of mind he approved the Methadone program nationwide for anyone over 18 with dirty urine. With a heavy focus on inner-city black nam vets with a taste for smack. This program did more harm than I can ever tell you. Because, it rewarded hard drug use with even more drugs...

 

It really used to annoy me that every time someone who happened to be a Viet Nam vet did something wrong the local news would make sure to say he was a Viet Nam vet. Sometimes they weren't even sure if he was a vet but said it anyway. "A guy went on a shooting spree today in downtown. Witnesses describe the man as a Viet Nam vet."

Even that movie 'Dog Day Afternoon' in the mid 70s had two lead characters who robbed the bank and were Viet Nam vets.

 

Shag and We;
It's called "scapegoating" and it reached high form back in the day. I do recall an incident in Chicago where a black Vietnam vet organized a shootout with the police, but most of the radical groups in the USA playing at guerrilla warfare were NOT composed of VVs. I do believe the stats state that the returning Vietnam vets ran into no more police troubles than veterans of any other American war. What was different with this group was that they were extensively villianized. I am thinking of this VV I went to college with and how brilliant, fun, solid as a rock and well...ON to something he was. Then people would say something about him being a vet and shake their heads in amazement. M-- was pretty upfront about it and would crack anecdotes about his days on the choppers. I think that there were a lot more M--s out there than maladjusted losers, but that the latter got the press microscope put on them. I guess I just expect a "funhouse mirror" view of reality from the media anymore. It is a healthy thing that people are not as gullable as they were back then.
Tundrahopper4

 

Read thru the whole thread.You folks are good people with some damn great tales!I definately believe in gun control--if there're any guns in my vicinity,I want to be controlin' 'em!-----scratcho-----

 

Scratch,
In a perfect society there would be no need for personal protection. Now we went into the mean streets with all these highfalutin' ideals and well... things were a lot more complicated than anticipated. Not to say that the effort was not appreciated, just to say that it was a learning experience for all sides concerned.
whaddideizz bro,
Tundrahopper4