Shameless_Heifer and Haight Ashbury

and that is why i am dead today,damn preditors.Pacifism works.

here in the real world
Alan Jackson

 

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there are times when you have to stand up: weather you need to do it with a gun is questionable at best.
I was riding around with a couple of natives after quite a few drinx at the bar i knew the two we worked together in a roofing co. My crew papered a roof they left exposed for several days and charged them 200$ for doin it , I did not work on that job I was ill that day
After drinkin a couple with the two we went for a ride (toke toke pass)had a few shots from the snops bottel and ended up 30 miles out of town on the red river north And guess what comes up the two hundred dollars iI didnt get none of.Well at this drunken stage they didnt care they were mad and I was their volentier to partake in their anger managment program. One dragged me out by my hair at gunpoint while the other proseaded to pammel my head with his fist both men being rather large 6'2 or so and outwaying me by 100 lbs a peice.I was in dire strieghts even though I am learned in marshal arts my future wasnt looking too bright .they proceaded to beat on my head till i ducked under to protect my face and reseaved a hurendouse ear ringing kick to the cheek and then another as i fell back to the chest wich broke a bone in my chest plate up close to my throat at that point they drug me to the river and dunked my head in the icey dnak waters of the river telling me that "the Red dont give up the dead white boy"At this point i was afraid for my life NO DOUBT so I pulled my gurber blade from its sheath with the intintion of stickin at least one of them just under his groin up and aroud his buttox severing his artery and killing him befor he could make it back 30 miles to town.I pulled the knife and popped the blade with them unawair when i heard out load "'DONT DO IT PUT IT AWAY.DONT DO IT PUT IT AWAY"I was confused cause neather man spoke But i closed my knife put it in my pocket and proceaded to talk my way beg eaven for their murcey pleading them not to do any more I talked my way back into the car and back to town but did not relent untell we made it back to the apartment. There the one with the gun left for more snops i tried doctering nursing my wounds with a wet cloth while the other proceaded to bragg about hi apperant victory over such an enimy that i presented to him saying again that the red does not give up the dead .so i stood up and BASHED in his jaw with my elbow and pinned him to the corner of the couch and proceaded to push his face to the back of his head with a flurry of blows out of extream fear and rage and utter disgust for that peaceof shit mother fucking skum.But it was GOD who told me not to kill him so i did not i let ther four roomates pull me off of his unconsious body .peace

 

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D-mama, Thank you for your contibution. AHHH a ONE that is in the KNOW at last.
Gate your one of the ones that would have been weeded out and plucked from the garden circle.
I'm assuming that's why you don't like hippies cuz they don't need or want your negitivity. You have probably been cast out by your peers and that's why you hang with the younguns.
Good luck to you on your journey to enlightenment Gate. All roads lead to Rome, some paths just take longer to get there. Blessed Be.

 

Shameless,
I am guessing that I would not like Mr Gate if I were to meet him-though I could be very wrong. I remember certain "hippies" back in the day who presumed to speak for "us", but seemed every bit as opinionated and rigid in their way as the very thing we were running from when we left our stodgy little hometowns. And these were the ones the media seemed to focus on and hold up as "the idealistic youth of today." Pure bullshit. Oh ideology was there but so to was something infinitely more scary to the powers that were/be. There was spirit.
Tundrahopper4

 

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Thundra,
It's seems our friend has run out of BullShit. He (gate) is no spokesman for me or my culture. I really don't know where he is coming from. He is neither hip or a hippie and has no room to talk about them. He hasn't payed his dues. But that's his karma and it doesn't affect my life.
I choose not to drink from the same well, for sharing is precious and I still have a right to choose the company I keep. Altho it seems mr gate would have us lose all our rights and lay down and get run over.

 

Whoa slow it down gale

I havent heard anything but another OPINIONATED ((nudge, nudge)) old fart sayin what he believes; in a group that, though we prefer peace, still take to theart the trodden snake flag (Don't tread on me !). All of us are every day living that which we believe strongly enough to act on - (OUCH ! ) - though...... Ahh the mirror shines brightly - need I say more

Lovin Ya

 

It was a weekend vow of silence.Gumby's idea in a sense..I just wanted to give everybody a chance to show their LOVE LOVE LOVE.Hell,I'm even being drug out of drum circles now and a it's good thing I'm not a "red"...LOVE LOVE LOVE.Now let's talk about tolerence...

I'm a long tall texan
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I try to bring LOVE LOVE LOVE gate. But I will tell you this much my friend. While I'm showing my love to a rabid dog and he bites me everytime I show it, well, out here in the country we'd put the dog down, it's the best for the all and the dog.
I don't live in an ashram, I live in the real world. I work the land and till the soil. I raise the babies and kneed the bread. I care for my animals and I tend my garden.
It was the dream, we all dreamed it back when, that was what we were all striving for. Land to live as we loved, FREE. Free to gather and be thankful for our blessings after the Harvest. Free to breath the clean(er) air and to swim and fish in the waters that Creator has given us. We are the keepers of the land. It is our job to protect it and our families. How do you propose we do this with out our tools.
I never said I didn't love you as a brother, I said I didn't understand you and what you brought to the table. Like many others, I carry the warrior Spirit inside me. Like a Crusader, I will fight for what I hold dear to me. Anyone that says they wouldn't will have their own time of reconning.
I don't know everything, but I do know that LOVE LOVE LOVE (positiveity) will get you further down the road then negitivity. I shine light and love, but don't back me up against the wall, I am MOTHER EARTH, I bring forth LIFE and LOVE. But I also carry a paddle. And I'm not afraid to use it. That's part of love you see. We all must have disapline, we all need correction from time to time.

This is a Flashback forum. This thread has my name on it, I didn't start it.. I was mearly flashing back, and here you come stomping on my memories. You have not been given permission to trample me. I will stand up for what I know is the truth. After all I lived it. It was what I was/am. These are my memories. Why does it upset you so. It's my life. These are the lessons I learned.

 

Why does it upset you so.

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Shameless,
Well I guess I have come to distrust all ideologues and their ideologies. Now my best friend "Mario" is of the "college liberal" persuasion and will not even consider having a firearm in the house. He lives out in California with all the loose nuts and bolts that have rolled that way since the Gold Rush and seems to really believe that the police are adequete to defend against any eventualities. Mario and I disagree totally on this subject-"Mario, by the time the police come it is too late!"-but he sees it as a "karmic thing." Whatever... I just hope his "good karma" holds. Now my wife "Katie" was once stalked by a psychopath and the police did not get this guy's attention until they threw him in prison. Were my firearms and dogs the thing that kept this fine fellow from kicking the door in and murdering us all like he said he was going to do? Quite possible. I see firearms as "the ultimate insurance policy" that I pray I never have to use.
Sounds like your son ran into some rough stuff-good on him that the judgement call just sort of came. That is called "true warrior on your feet action"-to know just what is necessary and how far to take it. Good on you kid!
Tundrahopper4

 

PS.
Katie at San Xaviar ten yrs back. She is an Earth Mother too and the one who keeps things going in this spere.

 

PSS. Katie in Virginia City about eight years back-she is from a military family and a crack shot with a pistol. I am a good shooter but Katie is exceptional.

 

Imagine that ,I'm an earth daddy.I just belong to the wrong group,I don't want to kill people or beat them up.OOOPs ther I go with my right wing propaganda again,no wonder they kicked me out of their circle jerk.

 

Shameless,
Maybe you could take Mr Gate for a lap ride then huh? Ah forget it-it's probably what he wants. At any rate-politics.... Now my friend Mario is a far left sixties academic. Our late best friend Mick J was a right wing Arizona Republican. We all got along famously. What really turned me off to left wing politics was how they treated the Vietnam vets when they came back. There were actually crazies going to the airport spitting on these guys-who were after all my friends and neighbors from the same working class neighborhood I came from. A lot of holes in the logic of both of the major schools of political thought in this country. I guess I am an Independant though I find it hard to vote for the party that represents the economic interests of only the top 5% of the population. Now Mario is a multi millionaire and still votes Democratic. People ask him why and he tells them that GOP policies are harmfull to the country at large. Now why is it that people get all excited about what happens in far off lands and pay almost no attention to what is going on with their household incomes? Household incomes are A LOT closer to home. I guess it is just the nature of the beast. Katie is in the healthcare field and what is happening out there with the uninsured is a national disgrace, and the US is the only first world nation with people dying on the streets. Why? Because of someone's crackpot ideology. Can we apply some common sense to these things people? Oh I guess not.... Then the crime situation out there is way out of control... people of Mario's persuasion would have the honest citizen disarm. This would seem to fly in the face of common sense to me.
Tundrahopper4

 

redneck rhetoric.10-4 good buddy.Lap ride?