Shameless_Heifer and Haight Ashbury

Shameless Heiffer,
Big ten four on the never getting took down by the lowlife again! And there is a small percentage of humanity that is WORTHLESS LOWLIFE.
Gate,
Someone saved by guns? Not a recent story but...Well ME and a bunch of my friends. A coupla gorrillas were stomping through us wimpy hippies at a party I threw back in the day? I put a shotgun in their faces and that ended that. Yes I would have killed them if they would have moved. And yes someone would have been seriously hurt or even killed if the stomping would have gone on (I should repost this series of stories based on '69 sometime). You do not hear a lot of these deterrant stories as the news media finds them not to be of note.
Our son and the bears? Well usually they will not approach houses but this fellow was getting bold. "Live and let live" with the bears but you do need to keep food in the house and can't have them banging in the doors. This "Yogi with an attitude" has not been back.
Tundrahopper4

 

they were picking on you at a party and you had a shotgun.Once again it sounds like paranoia.Also once again,his food must not have been stored right for someone who wants to live in bear country.This bear"with an attitude"was in his own enviroment,being encroached upon and shot at.
reserve your right to arm bears.

 

Gate,
I guess there is not much discussing the subject with you but NO-these two guys had just stomped three or four people to the ground on the front lawn and had just broken in the door to get at the rest. Type of guys with arms thicker than your neck and criminal dispostions (both later spent time in prison are dead now). Then I later heard there was a rape and a near rape earlier in the night by these goons. And a few "playfull" punches that ended in TKOs in the livingroom (I was upstairs doing the sex thing at the time). The gal who was raped was never the same and later went crazy. But I guess there is no discussing this issue with you as you seem to know everything already so this discussion is ended.
Good luck out there-you will need it,
Tundrahopper

 

boy these gun toting excuses get wilder everytime they're told.I don't rely on luck,I've lived my first fifty years in peace and i'll do the same for the next 50.Now go kill something...

 

O shit I can't resist - but I Know I should hehe

Hippies come in all shades and some are some pretty mean motherfuckers
But yeah I agree about not having guns - just so long as nobody gets to use them - but they're here. You take away all the guns from those that are law abiding and guess what - yup only the badies have them
Guess that makes me a real Burchie aye ?
I got put in the FBI files for advocating violent overthrow of the gov. What BS, I did give a speech (right after Kent state and while Univ of Md. had the guard on their campus and several wounded from them - I was at UMBC {Balt. - other campus was nearer DC- College Park) I knew people who had brought weapons - we were going to march on, and take over the armory from which the guard at college park campus came from. Volatile times !! In my speech I said that if you are fired upon you have the right to fire back - and then emphasized that I was a C.O. (conscientios objector) and would rather be killed myself than kill another - but that did not abrogate the rights of others to defend themselves. Told people that this was not a joke - was not a game, it could be life threatening.
And being involved in many other demonstrations I've run for my life when the men in blue came marching with gas and sticks dogs and guns.
It's like I told one state trooper - no I do not give you the right to search my car (at that time we still had some rights - dick was part of the grand tradition to make the sheep fangless in case they finally woke up) but you have a big gun officer and I'm not going to try to stop you but I am saying in front of witnesses that I refuse you the right to search the car (And you'd be surprised at what not giving away your power does eapecially if you know enough to back it up and are civil while doing it)

And having children changed me a bit ... I would defend them.
And No I've never fired directly at another but yes I do have guns - and no I do not hunt but yes I am a land owner and got a wee bit tired of having hunters point that goddamn big muzzle (shotgun only area) at me when I told them they could not hunt on the land I owned and posted. oops - now I try not to go out during hunting season, used to patrol with a rifle which scared the bejesus out of the hunters with only limited distance shotguns. But I get too hot after telling the same jokers that the land is posted - I don't want to threaten or carry a gun -soo - I have another hunter post my land in his name and go after them -BTW he did not believe me about getting weapons leveled at you till it happened to him - and he warned the guy to pull the trigger cause he'd be pulling his next time that happened.
Yeah we can live peaceful and Being a red head, I've had to work at my temper all my life -one of the reasons I was a CO....
Hey let me share this wonderful dream I once had: I was up in N.india near tibet and was being taught marshall arts by a master. He came up with his arms up his sleeves and said "you have been a very good student - I have but one more thing to teach you" and as fast as thought throwing stars were everywhere I was or could move to - I dissapeared - he said "very good" and turned and walked away.
What I got from the dream is you do not have to be where the energy is - you choose to be there.

So I do Not disagree with you gate but damn the brinksmanship that has brought this society in the stages of tumbling down - you don't think the rifraff are going to come out and take and mauraude against any that may have or even just because they can now that authority has broken down (yeah I know it hasn't yet - hurray for Ruby Ridge ! - the constitution is now attacked by the goverment goons)

Ah shit - sorry for the rant - I don't See no right and wrong - just what Is. And I strongly hope when I die I'll still be able to say that I have done physical harm to none.

Hey Blessed be you all
And may whatever Path you walk bring you the lessons you choose by walking it
Blessings on your Way

 

the baddies have guns now.More of them feel the need for protection then a non baddie.Violent overthrow of the government?What for so we could put a different set of violent people in charge.Replace one gang with another.There was a lot of anger after Kent State,but thankfully it didn't result in us turning into them,or did it?

 

My goodness all this anger Gate. We have a right to do as we please as long as we do no harm to anyone. Seeing as you live in a city you probably don't know how to survive in the country/wilderness. I shoot posionus snakes to eep my babies from being killed. I shoot deer and trap hogs and fish the lakes for food. It has been this way since time began. Look what happened to the Native Amercians when their hunting and fishing grounds were taken from them, They Parished (most of them). My husband is half Native American, and I'd like to see you tell him he should not hunt for his food. He is non-violent and minds his own biz. But he would not hesitate to kill a mother fucker that was out to harm his family or misuse his home. Remember guns don't kill people, people kill people. You can kill with a blade of grass, but does this make the blade of grass evil and should we pull up all the grass. A person can fall out of a tree and be killed, should we cut all the trees down. A chainsaw can kill, dang near everything can be used as a killing devise.

If we were to take way the guns there would be something else to take it's place. It's mankind that kills. It's the intent in which something is used that's make it bad, not the utensile itself. Don't blame guns, blame the ones that use them for evil purposes. And that's all I have to say about that

 

Such wisdom...........and very good point about the whole balde of grass

 

BTW, I am not a city person, I did not move to the country to kill animals, how stupid are you. I have lived here in the country and been farming 25 yrs. I don't think that qualifies me as a city person. The nearest 'city to me has 2,800 people in it. and we just got our first Red Light last year. It's still like the earily 1900 around here except for the automobiles. Dang and I thought we were doing so well, and here to find out I'm/we are horrible killers and we should eat the posion meat at the grocery store and the eratadiated veggies the grocer sells us to feed our babies. Gee, I've had it wrong this whole 54 yrs of my life. Thank you for setting me straight on how I am to live. I don't know how I lived as long as I have with out your wisdom. I humbly apologise for living my life in freedom and lovingness. Please forgive the fuck outta me Gate.

 

wooooow.......never seen this side of you before.....slightly scary seeing as you are such a nice person all of the time.........

 

Story on how I was saved by a gun:
My hubby and I were out frog gigging late one hot summer night. We had been to several pools and had about ten biguns with fat juicy legs. We headed over to this one pond in the deep woods and was working the bank for more bullfrogs.
We found this nice little spot and was gigin' a few and I was shinning the flashlight on the water,when a water mocacine went after the frog on the gig and started up the pole. Then all of a sudden there were maybe fifty of them swarming the water and up the trees and banks. My hubby was about three feet away from me and looked down at my feet and there were thee mocacines slithering at my feet towards my legs, he pulled out his 45. and blasted them. I stood frozen in the moment unablle to move from fear. I stared at him and he said "Lets Bail' he said jump backwards, we jumped back and tore at threw the briers, with him fireing as the nest of vipers came at us.

Another time was while we were clearing out some vines and tangled briers to clear a spot for my hubbies barn we were about to hang it up for the night and I went out to find a err' tree to pee' I came across a pack of wild dogs that had me surrounded. There were about seven or eight of them all bearing their teeth at me and growling low. I was again terrified squating there with my 'pants down' afraid to move. I chanced one yell for Lynn and the dogs started closing in. One had me by the arm and the others were about to pounce. I screamed bloody murder and Lynn was there in a flash firing first at the sky, then he started picking them off. By the time he got to me I had some pretty bad bites, but my hubby had saved me. I dont know if either one of us would have made it out alive if he haddn't had a gun.

 

wooow........kinnda off subject but whats a mocacine?......anyway.....

 

Anger,I'm not the one who needs a gun.You've been out of the city 25 years it's time to relax.Remember why you moved to the country.Actually I just moved into town(pop.5,000).I still get the snakes though.Green Mojave and diamondbacks.Coyotes still run through the yard.They are not a threat.
Guns were introduced to the native people here.Guns brought the settlers and destroyed the buffalo and thinned out the other game.The whiteman brought in the cattle and other farm animals killing the wolf and the prarie dog and other such "pests".
I had a good garden before the move,had a rosy boa that resided there.i believe it kept the rattlers at bay.need to start another,it saves me from having to eat store bought shit.Organicaly raised meat is available.You just don't get the thrill that comes from the violence of killing it yourself,but the cost comes out about the same.

 

Hairbear my Brother,
I have lived in some rough places. I have a side of me that is rough. I try to keep this side in it's place till I need it. It is the warrior side of me, the mother tiger protecting her cubs side, which all of us have when we're up against a wall. If I did not have this side of me I could not have the other side of me. It is the contrast that brings wisdoms. The I can say cause I lived it kind of thing. I can see both sides of the coin. I have lived a life of learning the hard way. Through living it. That was my past learning, I choose to live in peace now and have layed my sword down ( but not out of reach). I can get down n dirty and take it over the line and back. I can love the bark off the trees. I can forget it or I can act on it, depending on what buttons are pushed. I am a peace lover, and I try to reason before acting. But where there is no reasoning, I protect. It's like this: If you mess with me or mine, you may not like the outcome. If you need help or healing or food or what ever, it is given freely here with LOVE LOVE LOVE. I have gained much power over the yrs and the Blessed Goddes has seen fit to hand these powers to me. I can be a terror or an Angel, depending on which is called for. I TRY to do good works and spread love love love and I TRY to obey my inner godself. I have the power of self preservation and when I am faced with danger that I cannot reason my way out of, I am sometimes forced to fight my way out. It is instinc and it prevails it the motherhood thingy.

Also I raised four boys and ya don't getum raised by being easy on them. Loving them yes, letting them become weak , no.

My daddy had three girls and raised us like he would have boys, teaching us self defence and how to survive in the wlderness, how to box, how to purify water and eat tree bark if we had to. He taught us to use and repect guns and how to reload or own bullets. He taught us how to stand up for our beliefs and hold on to the old ways. To love one another and to be kind and caring. He also taught us not to take 'no shit'. He taught us about GOD too. I am what I am from living my life as I have. I can be no other as this is why I am here, to be me. I am learning everyday. I learn good things and I come across some not so good things, but it's all part f my life and I have no other choice but to live it and learn and grow.

 

woow.....have you ever considered becoming a writer.......you have a way with word you get your point across and still have a sence of...."What the hell is she on about?"(not to be offenceive)you seem to have a very Loveing family you should be prowed....as im sure you are.....and i think it is cool that you have a father who would teach you that kind of stuff.....im not saying i dont love my father but i wasnt taught much by him....i teach my self most things...but anyway.......

 

Good Grief. I don't walk around holding a gun in the stores or whatever. They are securely locked up in their proper place. You have taken this way beyond what it should have been taken. Lets just agree, we have the right to have our own beliefs and our own truths. I belive in our RIGHT to have them, but as to who gets them should be more tauntly supervised. I dspise killing I don't do it mindlessly. I also dispise doing dishes but I do them out of necessity. I hate pulling weeds too but I do it so my flowers/veggie/fruittrees and Berries, may live a long and healthy life. Should I not do as much for my children and their children. I am speaking as a mother and grandmother. Would you mess with your granny, would she not whoop your butt when you were naughty.
If the wolves were killing your livestock would you not run to defend them. And what would you use to run them off. A good talking to?????. I'm just saying there is a time and place for all things. Like I said before. Guns do not kill people, PEOPLE kill people. A gun is a harmless object untill someone uses it for evil intent. It is not the peice of metal that is the killer, it's the person that has it in their hand.

 

machacin is probbaly closer to the spelling. I don't know..lol.. I cant spell worth a diddly. But it is a big fat posionus snake the lives out here and it's deadly. They are water snakes and swim in the lakes and ponds. The have hundreds of baby snakes that are more deadly then their parents. They hang out of trees anf fall on passers by, or getcha on the banks. They are mean and ugly. Big and vicious, gives me the willies to think about them. We have good snakes too and we don't harm them. I swat misquitos too and kill fireants. I also spray for Hornets and Wasps that may harm my babies.

 

Hairbear,
I have a book that is in edit right now, about my time in the Haight. Of course now that I thought it was finshed I realized it was only the begining of what is to become a trilagy. I have been 'writing' since I was 8 yrs old. I wrote poems and stories, later I started writing facts and then I started a line of childrens books about my hubby (the farmer) and all the animals on our farm, the star being our little chuaua "Skipper Dale". I have seven of those finished. I am also working on my Book Of Shadows, with recipes for making soaps, candles, lotions and potions and how to bless your craft. I have no formal writing skills. I just write what my mind sees and how I precive it. I will probably write as long as I can't type, as I can no longer hold a pen in my hand every long from surgeries. At any rate, it's not the writing that holds me back. It's getting it published that's difficult. I dont have the green energy to put forth at this time. Maybe someday.

 

Woooow......very Groovy.....and now i know what that snakething is to....you learn somthing mew every day........

 

Hi Shameless Heifer . Hi Hairbear.

Thanks for your facinating reminiscences of Haight Ashbury.
Like HairBear - I too am a Brit.
We never had anything like Haight Ashbury. (Maybe Woburn Abbey!!!).

Shameless, did you ever meet these guys .please see photo below:

Thanks.