Sh!thole Nations

Discussion in 'Politics' started by GeorgeJetStoned, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    This is a weak collection. There was no "complete" shutdown of Muslims at all. Only a moratorium on travel from a small handful of predominantly Muslim nations which had piss poor security protocols. Not a race issue, a security issue. Plenty of Muslim nations were not on the list including Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Turkey.

    As for #2, well, it sure wasn't Americans who made all those rape trees at the border. It was brutal human traffickers from various nations south of the border. Again, not a "racist" issue at all. We wouldn't want illegal Swedes being smuggled across the border either.

    On the issue of #3, that whole event reeks of setup and it seems more like his words were wildly taken out of context. It's not what I'd call hard proof of anything. Just more wishful conjecture.

    What I find kind of disturbing is how easily you seem to buying into all this innuendo and highly questionable sourcing (like the infamous dossier that "proves" Trump prefers Russian piss or whatever). See, I don't trust ANY of the news services, not even Fox. I have to read dozens of them, even a couple of "white supremacist" sites to feel like I'm even near the truth of a given situation.

    So really, if Trump IS a racist, doesn't it seem like we'd have a lot more overt proof of this? Like having the IRS, FBI and maybe even the CIA start harassing and arresting the people of inferior race that he doesn't like? And where are the collection camps? Where are the gas chambers to "confirm" that Trump is a Nazi?

    There's so much useless noise coming out of the press I can't imagine trusting any of it no matter what I think of Trump, Obama, the Clintons and of course the Bush family dynasty.

    The bulk of our problems aren't about race, they're about class. Race is just a distraction to keep us from even looking at the obvious class war going on (which still makes me wonder why none of the antifa ever attacked any gated communities). And how on earth can anarchists actually choose a party to back? They're supposed to be well above that shit.
     
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  2. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    It still doesn't answer the claim, no matter how long and drawn out you make it. If I was to buy all the claims out there I'd have to reconcile myself as a racist simply because I'm white. I'm also supposed to be a Nazi and a klansman, aren't all white people?

    Of course not. Even with DNA that's an "abomination" MOST white Americans are NOT racists at all. Or we probably would not be having this discussion. We really need some big picture perspectives on this issue as opposed to simply repeating press mantra.

    Do you really believe the press? The media? Everything they do is geared toward entertaining so they can sell ad space. It's like trusting used car salesmen.
     
  3. Meliai

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    This is a bit of a leap. One can be a racist without being a genocidal murderer
     
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  4. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Come on George, the words come from Trumpy's own mouth: A TOTAL AND COMPLETE SHUTDOWN OF MUSLIMS...
     
  5. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Trumpy did not want to rent to darkies.
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Darkies? That's a racist taunt.
     
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  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    What would count as "racism" to a Trump supporter? Does he need to yell "hang the niggers and wet backs" during the State of the Union?

    It's interesting to me that they are so sensitive to white people being picked on yet it exists with no other color. Every little thing from NFL players kneeling to affirmative action is some attack on who they are. They have the same argument as people who proudly say they are racist. To say racist things is not racist it's just being wise to the world and proud of who you are.

    That's why Mexicans need a wall, that's just smart
    No Muslims? Again smart because they are trouble.
     
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    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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  9. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Can't see the forest through the trees as the expression goes. If all you have it "but Muslim is not a race" you don't have anything. That is why you focus on such non-issues. We both know what is meant by "race". Probably why Muslims from England and Sweden (and there are a lot right) are not on a ban list.
     
  10. GeorgeJetStoned

    GeorgeJetStoned Odd Member

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    Oh I fully agree. I just happen to think the very term "Racist" is tossed out so casually now that it has become utterly useless except as an insult. In fact, that appears to be the only way it's used these days, that and as a convenient way to try to shut down a discussion.
     
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  11. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Exactly, "what is meant by race" is the subjective aspect of the term, how it's used as a tool or weapon. There's so little actual truth to be mined from its use these days. The simple message is "Trump's a racist, because, Trump's a racist, believe me or you're a racist too". It's so nazi-like in its delivery.
     
  12. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    See I don't find it very Nazi like at all. I don't actually think Nazism was all that racist anyway. Nazism was strictly a Germany for the Germans kind of deal. It wasn't "oh let's kill everybody in the world that isn't white" Hitler mentioned many times how he admired other cultures, specifically the Japanese.

    Just seems easier to umbrella a whole bunch of shit under one label and run with it.

    The drastic decisions made during the final years of WW2 compared to the late 1920s and 1930s era are two totally different types of "Nazi".

    To me calling racists Nazis etc. is just a low blow effort coming from an uneducated person. Don't really understand history but quick to throw labels at people.

    Trump is NOT a Nazi.
     
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  13. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Maybe he's a rabbit. Really, if we call him a rabbit many many many times, he'll surely turn into one. If not, it won't matter since the message that he's a rabbit will have been repeated so many times that only a fool (or another rabbit) would deny it.

    THAT is how ridiculous all this Trump blather has become. It's as if people actually think they can whine him out of office.
     
  14. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So you can't address even one of the facts I presented?
    I have no idea what you're talking about about being white.
    I agree most Americans aren't racist.
    I don't believe all of the press or media, that's why I consult multiple sources and consider the history of the reporting by the organizations I do believe. I also check to see if they admit mistakes and try to correct them.
     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No it isn't. Trump is a racist because he talks like a racist, acts like a racist, and supports other racists.

    The term race is defined by international law...which I have posted numerous times:
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So you don't believe the Nazis were racist? I find that very hard to believe.
     
  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    So has Trump passed any bills that directly state what you've just posted.
     
  18. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Whom are you addressing, and what post are you referring to?
     
  19. Irminsul

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    Depends what you call a Nazi. But I know you're American and thereore umbrella the term Nazis to all Germans at the time, as that's what your education teaches you.

    In that case no, I don't believe all Nazis were racist.

    Like I said, the whole political agenda was very very different from 1920s to the 1940s. The 1920s was a very nationalistic approach to the country. Only Germans would work in and for Germany and be paid. If you weren't German you wouldn't be allowed citizenship and you'd not be able to work in Germany. Not unlike America right now really. And that made sense to the population too. After all, and most countries were like that, isn't cool when foreigners come in and take your countries money and leave poor homeless people on the streets. That's not cool.

    Foreigners would be welcomed with open arms in Germany, just not to work and at some point the holiday had to be over, no mooching off the system. Go back home and come again by all means.

    This is a clearly written in Mein Kampf, as is Hitler's fascination with other cultures.

    In the 1940s things weren't looking so good. Addy had severe drug dependencies and psychosis, constant fear and paranoid delusions which resulted in extreme and unrational solutions. That doesn't mean the boys in the field voted for it to happen or anything, like they all said, they were too busy trying to survive than to be told about politics back home.

    So no I don't believe that all Nazis were racist to that degree, or as racist as everybody makes them out to be.

    Don't forget, even Muslims fought in the SS. Greeks. Arabs etc. If that doesn't throw the racial theory to the ground then I don't know what will.
     
  20. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    You posted about racial discrimination, I asked has a bill been passed with those exact words?

    Like.

    We are doing this and that because we wish to impair the recognition of other cultures.

    I gotta tell ya I'm browsing the internet for all bills passed by Trump and I'm only coming up with things opposite of racial discrimination. Such as this one "for the integration of employment, training, and related services programs for Indian tribes." that's far from racial discrimination like you posted. Lol.

    Woah. Just found another where a bill was passed to accept overseas immigration workers and contracts. Mainly directed at Chinese immigrants. Again, the opposite of this "racial discrimination" you speak of.

    Woah fuck, what's this one... Signs an act "rejecting White nationalists, White supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, and other hate groups, and urging the President and the President's Cabinet to use all available resources to address the threats posed by those groups" shit, doesn't sound like racial discrimination to me. That's actually the opposite of everything people pretty much say.

    Too much time reading irrelevant and disvalued articles on Facebook dude.
     
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