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I don't have a problem condemning those at fault either, I just won't condemn everybody and for all these years I just feel a little begrudged maybe is the word, of how I can interpret something that seems so off in comparison of everybody else. But maybe I keep an open mind too, I actually knew "Nazis" and they aren't like anything people describe them of being today. They were honest hard working people. Action and adventure they sought to see the world for good pay, fruitful conditions and a future after the war. They weren't these mass murdering racists the Nazi label sees them as today.

 

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So basically you can't find any bill passed by Trump under the racial discrimination reasoning that you posted yourself?

 

Trump was not a racist until he ran for president.


What does that tell you about the modern left. And their role as the little boy who cried racist?

 

I'm not attempting anything, I was genuinely curious to see or hear if anything he'd actually has passed contained the racial discrimination your spoke of. In which I didn't and you can't seem to find any relavent information or direct cases of it either.

This must be what it feels like, when people argue with me and I bring nothing to the table.

 

If you want to argue in seriousness that Nazis were not very racist in their ideology you have to bring a lot to the table. Its pretty evident. That some individuals weren't actually agreeing with this ideology doesn't change shit about nazis in general.

 

easy now ,
i am a german and saw your lines, i need to clarify one thing for you americans who get brainwashed heavily. here we go

this is what your media is telling you (which btw is no different than the media during nazi times) :

"Nazis were members of the Nationalsozialismus, .."

"Anyone who supported the Nazi philosophy was certainly racist. There may have been a few who joined the party out of fear or convenience and truly weren't overtly racist, but joining a racist party is in its self supporting racism."

TRUTH
Germans just as well as austrians voted for AH. He won by votes. He did not take over. The votes were up till this day one of the most unanimous. The nazis took them out of the gutter. During nazi times unemployment was virtually non existent and german economy was thriving. A big part of todays Germanys economic sucess is due to& was born at - exact that time. Nobody joined out of fear. You people have no right to judge germans or austrians decision to join the nazis. Just as nobody judges your support of bush, clinton, obama. Bush, Clinton, Reagon & co got more blood on their hands than A.H. Count the corpses. People in 50 years will also judge and call you names because you people supported these warmongers. The only difference now is that we are in the "now". We dont see that we arent any better/worse than nazis. There is a lot of blodshed going on around the world while you people are sitting comfortably at your laptop and you americans support it unconsciously with your tax dollars. Just as the germans during nazi times did. No difference.

ok i wont read your answers and wont comment here again. Bye

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Weak but understandable. Getting criticized sucks.

 

Making one statement of you beliefs and not being sucked into endless arguing doesn't suck, though.

 

that's exactly what i aimed at, thanks

 

Trump's birtherism was blatantly racist and he continues to use racist dog whistles (e.g., the Charottesville comments and the shitohole/shithouse remark) to appeal to his base. Is Trump himself a racist? I doubt that Trump himself has any deeply rooted convictions of any kind, other to advance his own wealth, status, and power. Everything else is a means to those ends. Was Nixon a racist? I doubt it, but he cynically used racism for his own ends. So does Trump. Does that make Trump better or worse from a moral standpoint? Debatable.

 

I think all David and Irm are illustrating is how easily it is for decent people to be duped into supporting an evil system

Which is why it is important to remain constantly vigalent and alert to the slightest hint of authoritarianism and bigotry in modern day politics

 

Their posts may also be illustrating what people in dire need will do along with to put food (and other life essentials) on their tables.

 

If one makes a statement like nobody joined the nazis out of fear they're at odds with the truth. Members of the nazi party actively looked up opposers and beat them up. They're not called fascists for nothing. So when someone claims something like that and end it with:

ok i wont read your answers and wont comment here again. Bye

I think its fair someone comes along and set them straight. In fact i wou ld be disappointed with this forum if no one would.

 

Someone coming along and commenting is expected but we don't have to demand that anyone join in an argument about their beliefs.

It's okay to state your opinion and let that be all that you wish to contribute to any discussion.

 

I generally agree with that.