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Its wrong because thats someones child.

 

k...dumb ass (and I say that with only the highest regard for your intelligence)...

100 years ago..it MAY have been acceptable morally for a man and woman of that age to marry and whatever...but 100 years ago we didn't know what antibiotics, civil rights, or even routine bathing was either...

times have changed..morals have changed along with them and in the MODERN world it is completely socially unacceptable for children (such as this 14-15) year old girl...to be screwing...

and what makes it even more disgusting is this guy is almost a decade older than her...he's a a pathetic example of maleness...preying upon a weak-minded and vulnerable child who has latched onto him because he somehow 'understands' her...

if he really cared for her...he wouldn't be porking her now would he? he'd know it was wrong... and he'd know the light that he's cast upon himself and her by continuing to do so...


speak english?

 

How do you define child?

 

So 100years ago it was possible for a younger girl to love an older man but not now? How has love changed?

Once again you've just stated "morals". Whos morals? How is this defined?

 

are you really this stupid? or is this some pathetic attempt to try and frustrate people into silence?

it's a valid question..

 

I think my question was just as valid and I'm awating an awnser. I just want you to back up your reasoning.

 

What's changed is the rate at which children mature. Seriously. Physically we are actually hitting puberty a lot faster these days, due to better diets, or hormones in food, depends on what you read and believe. Anyway, that's not the point. Mentally, it's a completely different story. Children 100 years ago, or even 70 years ago, they had to work. My grandparents were farmer's children. They grew up with tons of brothers and sisters that my great-grandparents started shooting out as soon as they could after they got married. They shot out so many so fast so that they could have help on the farm and with everything else they had to do back then. Life was harder. My grandparents had to be second parents if they were the older siblings, to help their own parents. They HAD to mature much quicker then. And the women, seriously, wanted to get married as soon as they could to start their own families and keep up the family farms. They had land all over back home. They were poor, but they had it everywhere from all the mixing together of the families. I have tons of great-aunts and uncles and tons and tons of great-great-aunts and uncles. They needed the sex, they needed the kids, they needed to grow up. How do most kids grow up now? Completely totally and utterly different. Compared to life as a child back then, we are coddled (unless you live in a sad situation that is, such as an abusive home life, a homeless family, or a third world country and such). So, yeah, love has not changed. Love is love is love. Maturity levels at these young ages, life experience, these HAVE changed. So much. Like I said, it's like comparing apples to oranges.

I think the moral issue here is the fact that so many young girls/boys are taken advantage of by older men/women. Is that right? Um, no. Is that moral? nada. It happens so much it's scary. There are varying degrees of these idiots out there. From the guy who just wants a quick easy lay, to the rapists out there who'll kill for it. Those two, and anything in between, are just sick idiots. Got me? And the problem is, a lot of them hide it so well. That is where our morals and the laws come in. So some guy in his 20s/30s/40/s+ is screwing around with a young girl. What do you do? He could be a serious, sick, twisted pedophile. He could be controlling her and no one would know because her, being controlled, would need a lot more will power to let anyone else know, and he's just damn good at faking his feelings and acting normal around everyone else. Girls get raped this way, kidnapped, pregnant and left behind...by men with NO MORALS. Is it fair to the couple who really does love each other if they get caught consumating that love? Well...not really...but if it's true love, it can wait at LEAST until they don't need to fear the law coming after them. Seriously, honestly, it CAN wait. I am in love. I know what it is, how it feels. Sex is great, but I've gone long periods without it while he was away due to military stuff...I still loved him, the whole time, never felt alone (missed him like hell though ). So, sex CAN wait.

 

Coolest fucking thing I've heard yet.

Goto give you some reps for that.

 

Finally both have stopped posting - maybe this will signal an end to the major drama thread - or shall I say "bitch , bitch again, bitch some more, and bitch bitch bitch" thread - so that we no longer have to suffer through this same old shit again.

I believe that if she starts up another thread trying to bump up the same topic, she deserves to be banned.

Just an opinion. This forum doesn't deserve drama induced threads like these that cause nothing but flame wars and fights here and there. Corruption = Ban!

 

aw, but a little hardcore discussion on issues like this can be good for ya!

 

Yes, but the keyword is "CAN be good for ya".

This one simply WASN'T good, and ended up with the starter of the thread whining and complaining about being called a whore, a slut, her boyfriend being called a pedophile, a criminal, a rapist.

How can this be "good for ya". ??

 

Sometimes you have to shine a little light on a situation so someone can see the wrong/malicious intent in it.

 

A person unemancipated from they're parents.

One who is childish or immature.

A son or daughter; an offspring.

 

though i still think ur an asshole , i do agree that this discusion is getting us no where, too many ppl with strong aposing views who refuse to change their thoughts. this thread SHOULD end, with the thought that everyone has different opinions and thats just fine cus its what THEY believe, u dont have to agree...and im SURE that poor girl wont b starting another thread about it, god knows that if i was her id never post anything peronal about myself again lol
so peace to all of u,
love
everyones friend
madison

(thought it should end with peace since the whole thread was a war...)

ps: though if anyone wants to contribute to the original problem of it hurting when she has sex that would b the nice thing to do

 

I know this argument is over, but the people calling this guy a paedophile should consider the fact that in Germany where the man lives, this is legal, in Canada it would be legal, in Austria it would be legal - in fact in a hell of a lot of countries the world over it would be legal - are all these places wrong and crawling with perverts?

What you are basically saying is that if we don't agree with the beliefs of one of the most sexually repressed nations in the world we are a bunch of pervs and paedophiles?

Just try and remember that the world doesn't revolve around America and its beliefs. And I for one - am so glad of that.

 

Okay I am going to say something and I dont care if I get bitched out or get negative rep again...

But I think its really wrong if you are in your twenties to be dating someone whom is 15 or younger.. I am not blaming the child, cause they are young and naive and dont fully understand. Now the person who is in there twenties, why would they want to be with someone whom is a child, a teen a 15 year old. I am sorry but that really bothers me. My cousin whom was 14 was seeing a 23 year old, and you bet your ass that didnt last long once my family found out. She didnt understand at the time, but now that she is older she understands how he manipulated her and took advantage of her age. And fully regrets it everyday of her life..What does a 20 something year old see in a 15 year old..Now you all can argue back and forth with eachother, cause nobody is listening to one another...I think this thread should just be closed cause nothing is getting solved and its just been bickering..no one will see eye to eye on this one. I am just stating what I think, and my opinions..so please dont give me shit, I already had to hear a bunch of shit from my post earlier in this thread...It is your life and you are entitled to do with it what you would like...
But I just want to know for everyone saying that it is okay and everything..What if you had a child who was 15 and was seeing a person in there twenties..You all will probably say, oh thats okay, as long as I know them and blah, blah, blah..Please cut the shit..you know you would kick there ass..
But again, this is just my thoughts on the matter and what I think and such, its your life not mine..

 

Thank you Kayla! THIS was my whole point. I wasn't talking about whether this was right or wrong, all I was saying is you can state your opinion, your THOUGHTS, but don't sit there and bitch her out. Its her life not yours. Thank you once again, and please lets let this thread die.

 

That dosn't help your cause any, I still live with my parents and I'm 20, and I'm afraid I am a son to my parents. As for the immaturity, everybody matures at different rates, I've met really imature 25 year olds and really mature 15 year olds. So how do we decide where to draw the line? I agree that overall most older men dating young teenaged girls are usually just preying on their insecurities and what not. But thats not so for every case, so who are we to deny two people that might actually really be in love their happiness?

 

Thanks for a sane and polite response Co0kiezGurl My argument about my great grand parents wasn't to hard to shoot down now was it?

That case is extreme but I still beleive that people with a large age gap can still fall in love, it's not always the older guy manipulating the younger girl. If their love is valid why deny them that? I figure as long as it is consenting and that the parents of the younger party are aware of the situation then there shouldn't be a problem.

I just recently found out that age of consent in some states is 18!? So I could be 19years old dating a 17year old and have it be illegal? I think these laws need revising...