I really don't understand. Are you saying that the only way for a young guy to get laid these days is to be a dick? Or are you saying that young women these days are so easy that a guy would be a fool not to get some easy sex? Or both?
Freudian slip? you're saying here that having sex before dating is sick, but that's the only way you would do it careless error I think I thought it would be fun to harass you for it :sunny:
Personally I would say after, because I like to have some other form of connection with someone other than just a sexual one. Call me old fashioned
To me, it sounds like either you`re talking about courtship with a built-in gender element (guy woos girl with favors, girl is seduced) or you`re talking about commitment. Am I right? If that is what "going out, dating, etc." means, I have begrudgingly done it on few occasions and in most cases I have gladly skipped it altogether... That being said, I would love to (and have) hung out with girls as friends prior to having sexual intercourse. But in my case the order of events have been different for different relationships and I have had no regrets in that regard.
OK, so I've been thinking about whether I'm being old-fashioned or not. I think I'm quite open-minded and pro sex, but this topic has shocked me somehow. It seems like things have changed completely since I was young. In my day, most guys thought about pursuing sex like baseball, first, second, third base and score! Blow jobs were kinkier than intercourse. Girls were careful about not being seen as too easy. One time that I realized that things had changed was during the Monica Lewinsky scandal when for the first time, I heard people say that oral sex wasn't really sex, shocking because, in my mind, oral sex was advanced sex. And I guess the next time I realized things had changed was when I heard the definition of "hooking up". And what I'm hearing in this thread is that young people often have sex almost right away and only then consider whether to go out with this person. It's like you want to know whether you're sexually compatible immediately. The more I think about this, the more sense it makes, and I wish it was more like this when I was young.
So what is the question you are trying to ask ? I think you are asking how many dates until sex ? Like - did you have sex before you started "going steady" ? If so, lets me go through my last 3 long term GF's 1) First date - 2.5 years relationship 2) Third date - 1.2 year relationship 3) First date - 1.5 years and going... On those first date encounters the plan was not to have sex, but after a 5+ hour date, things just happen
I dated my boyfriend for about a month or two before we had sex, I can't really remember. I did let him finger me on our first date though :2thumbsup:
I don't "classify" certain sexual practices as "advanced" or not. Sex is sex and whatever floats your boat (and your partners) is just fine. There is virtually no limit to what you can do ... as long as you don't hurt anyone. Clinton stated that he "did not have sexual relations with that woman" which apparently refers to her "only" blowing him and the resulting shift in view has also been called the "Clinton-Lewinsky effect". Calling it something different doesn't make it different. How do you call a person that has had oral sex with ten different partners but still claims that he/she never "had sex" with anyone? My definition would be DUMB AS SHIT and I wouldn't touch that person with a 10-foot pole.