Seperation of Church and State

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Sera Michele, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    anyone ever heard of a freind of mine who has been running for office in i think boston..named "vermin supreme"? we need to elect him president
    at least hed make it a law that you have to brush your teeth at least 3 timesaday
     
  2. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    this is what will happen when you let religoun take over government, we will all lose every last one of our freedoms & hundrds of thousands of innocent people will die..who wants a mass grave in theyre backyard? fire up the bulldowsers we gotta burry all these evil pot smokers & masterbaters
     
  3. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    yea sodomy maybe banned but sado massochism isnt.. cause isnt that christian? didnt they used to whip themselves to keep from masterbating?
     
  4. Daniel Herring

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    While we are at it, let's just elect soaringeagle as Pres., and Libertine as next in command. You can be the exact opposite of all religious totalitarian government - you can go forth and kill without a cause. We should pray that people like you only sit around and talk, and never get elected.
     
  5. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    moron if i was pres i would do everythinf possible for peacem i would stop all poluting, i would work towards global unity i would disband & disarm the army i have no gods name to kill for therefore i will not kill i would protect the forrests & envronment & stop the raping of the earth..oops sorry maybe u needa chrystian in office to have your precius appocolypse
     
  6. MrRee

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    Who takes freedoms away ~ God or Satan?
    would you give away freedom because it suits your jaundiced ideology?
    Lamentaably, it seems very clear where you're coming from, and it 'aint the freedom side of the equation.
    I'm sure you are well "versed" in the christian style.......whip up a fear-driven frenzy and kill 'em all. It's been the christian method since day # 1.
    Think about that.
    If you can.
    Think, that is.
     
  7. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    yea he odviosly didnt read antiporns "good chhristian, servant of god" ideas on how to run the countrgy or hed be scared shitless of a christian totolatarian societuy, so here it is


    If elected I will work to ban pornography with a 10-year prison term for viewing or participating in pornography as well as oral and anal sex with a 1-5 year prison term for oral sex and a 1-10 year term for anal sex.

    If elected I will work to ban the manufacture and sale of contraceptives (birth control) with a prison term of up to 1 year in jail and/or a fine of up to $5000 for violating this ban. None of these laws will be retroactive.

    If elected I will support a ban on interracial marriage. While I am not racist I believe that God intends people to marry within their own race. Any and all interracial marriages currently licensed would immediately be annulled. Any children born to said couple would be allowed only to marry with other children of interracial couples.

    All races ought to have equal opportunity in employment pay and opportunity. Therefore I believe that Affirmative Action is racist against white people and if elected I will work to see that it is abolished.

    I firmly believe that sex should be shared with your spouse and that there ought be be love between the married couple. However man and wife ought to be of the same color as stated above.

    If elected I will support the death penalty for murder (including performing an abortion) as well as attempted murder and rape and incest and pedophilia/child molestation and bestiality and necrophilia and cross dressing and treason and spying against the State and espionage and drug dealing and vampirism and adultery and armed robbery.

    I am also 100% against homosexuality and I believe homosexuals including lesbians and bisexuals as well as people with fetishes ought to be put in mental hospitals. This must be done NOW before they degenerate society and our children's morals even further. I also believe ANY children in the custody of homosexuals ought to be taken away IMMEDIATELY in order to prevent further emotional and sexual abuse. DO NOT let your children near one of these vile monsters!

    I believe in a national dress code. If elected the National Dress Code (NDC) will be as follows:

    * All persons must wear clothing from their neck to three inches below their knees when in public or in the presence of children.
    * Women MUST wear dresses. Trousers are NOT lady-like and therefore women ought not to wear them.
    * Jeans are to be banned.
    * Any profanity or sexual references on clothing will be banned.
    * Businesses must comply with the NDC. Failure to do so will require business owners to sell their operation to the highest bidder.
    * Failure to obey the NDC will be subject to a fine NOT exceeding $10000 and/or up to 30 days imprisonment.

    I am completely in favor of banning the flawed and blasphemous theory of evolution from ever again being taught in public schools. It has paved the way for atheism to take root in this country. It has also led to Kinsey's famous sexual "research" that led to the sexual revolution. This in turn has contributed to the moral decay of America. God created man is his own image and we must never ever forsake His word. If we do America will end up like Sodom and Gomorrah.

    I support the good moral crusaders in Washington D.C. who are getting tougher on the War on Drugs. I am in favor of the death penalty for drug dealers and for a mandatory 10-year prison sentence for anyone caught with ANY illegal drug including marijuana. This mandatory sentence will be required for any amount of possession no matter how small it may be. This will send a strong decisive message to drug abusers that their use of drugs will not be tolerated by the American public.

    I propose prison reform. This will be as follows:

    * Prison cells will be made smaller. I would set this to approximately one-half of their average current size.
    * Prisoners will be kept in their cells 24/7 (i.e. NEVER leaving their cells during incarceration).
    * Prisoners will only be fed bread and butter.
    * NO contact with ANY other human being during incarceration.
    * NO TV or medical care or entertainment of any sort.
    * NO sunlight will penetrate a prison cell.
    * Disobedient or rebellious prisoners can be beaten by the guards as punishment.
    * ANY inmate that attempts to escape will be executed on sight.

    If elected I will work to legalize police entrapment operations so that criminals can be caught by police without fear of a lawsuit as well as to catch potential and aspiring criminals before they actually commit a crime on their own. I also believe police "brutality" is blown out of proportion and that mild violence towards criminals from the police should be accepted.

    I believe in Singapore-style anti-terrorist legislation. I propose that anyone suspected of being a terrorist ought to be required if necessary to serve up to 5 years in prison without formal charges being brought forward. This will help stop the wave of terrorism sweeping America today.

    I am a firm believer in the Temperance movement. I believe that alcohol and tobacco cause a great deal of problems in our country today. I favor the return of Prohibition as well as a complete ban on tobacco. Alcohol causes strokes and leads to cirrhosis of the liver and dropsy. It is also a leading cause of automobile accidents and suicides. Tobacco causes lung cancer (cigarettes) and throat cancer (chewing tobacco) and is along with alcohol a leading cause of premature death in this nation. Tobacco and alcohol are ruining America and it is up to the government to take the initiative to once and for all take tobacco and alcohol off America's streets and out of our schools and our stores and most importantly out of our culture. In order for these goals to be met we must require all schools and employers to regularly test for tobacco and alcohol as well as other drugs on a regular basis and report to the Federal government their findings. Any and all violators will be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    If elected I will work to support a total ban on tattooing. Tattooing is the desecration of one's own body and is indeed harmful. It often causes infections and can result in severe scarring and is very difficult to remove. Therefore all tattooing ought to be banned as soon as possible.

    If elected I will work to implement a Federal Anti-Vice Squad (FAVS) that will enforce all the morality laws enacted once fellow moralists are elected to high positions in government. The FAVS will have full search and seizure powers and will be able to for example demand a spare key from someone to search homes for pornography or tobacco etc. The FAVS will also be responsible for enforcing the NDC with patrolling of streets and informants on the streets of America.

    I support Project Echelon wholeheartedly as it has undoubtedly saved the United States from countless terrorist attacks and helps fight the war on drugs. Project Echelon monitors ALL telecommunications data for suspicious activity.

    I also support the new Carnivore project underway by the FBI to help catch criminals including but not limited to drug dealers as well as drug users and terrorists and spies and traitors of the United States of America.

    I enjoy politics. I hope to win the Republican nomination for President in 2020. I will fight as a moralist. I will try to institute the above goals of mine to restore the traditional Judeo-Christian values that our Puritan forefathers founded the United States upon at Plymouth Rock.

    Thank you and Amen.

    is that really the country w want to live in? is that america or amerikkka?
     
  8. Daniel Herring

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    On second thought, about the only thing some of you would do in office would be to legalize drugs. Before the advent of the internet, your kind was primarily found on benches in front of city halls: whitling and spitting tobacco juice. The complaints are still the same: i.e. only you have the answers. Blowhards through the ages have always been the same.

    One fact remains constant in human nature: if you had to fill the vacuum, all your grandiose rhetoric would fly out the window when reality hit you in the face. You would become as bad or worse as those who went before you, all of whom you despised.
     
  9. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    what thr hell do you know? i dont do drugs i dont drink, i would free all non violent marijuana prisinors definately, but i hate drug addiction & alcaholism with a passion..but its not a crime its an illness & i would treat it as such.. the rest of your post made no sence..so..you read that christians plans for the country..will you vote for him or not?
     
  10. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    actualy you read both of our positions..which would you vote for the 1 who wants to work for peace & freeedom & equality & th healing of the earth, or the 1 who wantdsto jail everyone who doesnt think gis way, tel you how to dress who to love, how to think,
    come on..he wants to run for office in 2020 & if he does i'd behonoured to run against him..who ysa gonna vote for?
     
  11. Daniel Herring

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    When Jesus returns, I'll vote for Him. Until then, everything will remain the same from day to day.
     
  12. soaringeagle

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    thats not an answer we have the repeblican candidate (who happens to be cristian yet totaly insane)
    and you have me..who you dont knowwhat i beleive except i want peace & to make a better world...choose 1
     
  13. logchopper

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    i dont know if i agree with anyone here but myself. all i know is that this country was built on FREEDOM. a bunch of people got fed up with being forced to practice what religion some king wanted them to, so they pack up and went to the new world. and they said that every man is free in everyway(do you think that there wasnt gay people back then?) they knew what was going on, but they still said to separate church and state. even my dad says this land was built on freedom but for some reason he still wants to force people to do what he wants them to. and even though i am christian i still believe that this land Was built on freedom and not the phony kind. the real kind that says every man has a right to whatever he wants.....PERIOD. and who is my dad to change it?who are these politicians to change it? life is life and i say live yours and get yours straight before you worry about everyone elses, i think we would be a lot better of without all these hypocrits anyway.
     
  14. soaringeagle

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    i agree with you 100% there
    can i ask ..s your father a polition then? is that what your inferring? & if so who/where? just curius but thak you, you just earned my respect
     
  15. logchopper

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    no my father is a pastor. and like most pastors he believes what he believes. there is no changing it with reasoning even if you have a good argument. so i get most of my points from his ignorance.....by the way, i love my dad very much, this is kind of a constructive critisism.
     
  16. soaringeagle

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    ahh i understand dogma can be rather ridgid & doesnt rspond well to reasoning
    perhaps you can apeal more to his emotional side & instead of trying to win arguments hop to win respect through love?
     
  17. logchopper

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    i already have respect from him, its just that he has weird views. example:just today we watched the skeleton key, i wont tell any spoilers just in case, but at the end of the movie he told me that the stuff was real. can u believe it? from a preacher? and he tells me i cant listen to ozzy because he sings bark at the moon and "Werewolves are satanic and there not in the bible" but his fav. movie in the world is van helsing and when confronted about that he told me that it was okay for him to watch it because van was "Fighting Evil". it just seems crazy to me.
     
  18. soaringeagle

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    lol theyre movies meant for entertainment & to scare you
    well thats crazy yea i think when your too wrapped up in only god you go slightly crazy ..like that antiporn whos plan for presidency i quoted earlier
    its 1 thing to love & respect god & all but when it absolutely consumes you & you cant make a descision as to what to hsave for breakfast without asking which is more evil a chocolate vampire or a leprechaun then your faith has made you aslave to it instad of setting you free
     
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    Eagle,


    I am stunned at the link to the post by antiporn, utterly stunned. He is akin to Adolf Hitler in so far as what he has presented. The recent rise, in this country, of fascistic activity is horrible; these simple-minded people who are not looking beyond their own "sub-culture" to see the wide variety of peaceful, wonderful, people of great ethnic and cultural variety within our country and throughout this world present a profound danger, in particular, because, although this kind of thinking will ultimately fail, in the process of the decay of this manifestation the losses, economic, environmental, and in terms of human life and human agony, are already high and I am afraid will continue into the not so distant future. I hold great hope for humanity, for humane and just interaction between peoples; interaction and control of power guided by wisdom; but this must come by just means, it is important that we fight with honor and goodness; not unlike Jesus or Peter looking at their murderers, or Martian Luther King Jr., or Abraham Lincoln.


    Peace My Brother,

    David
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  20. moon flower

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    hi [​IMG]


    i am completely for seperation of church and state, whatever a politicians religious views are they shouldn't bring that into their politics.

    george bush and tony blair may be christian but they should keep their beliefs out of the governemnt, they are meant to represent the whole country and not everyone is christian in america or england!!

    i watched a programme on the new pope the other night (now he is just scary) and it scares me how much power the vatican and the pope have- a woman wrote a book about how woman should be priests etc and the vatican stopped it from getting published and told her that she should repent for her sinful opinions ! what the hell gives them the right to do that?[​IMG]

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    peace and love
    issy
     

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